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[edit] Article name

I reverted the move to Juan Carlos I (ship) as I'm pretty sure it doesn't follow the naming conventions for such ships. I've asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Naming help for help from someone more familar with the guidelines. I reverted it back here to avoid causing double and triple redirects when it's moved to the correct name, not to cause the editor who moved it this time more problems. I'd appreciate it if he'd discuss this here, rather than trying to move the page again. Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 02:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

His numeral, is L61... time for the time.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.56.47.32 (talk) 06:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

In the English language, ships are called her or it, but never him. The officia Armada site has a model with the label "LHD1". I've also seen pictures of the completed ship with "LHD1", tho I can't recall wehre at the moment. You'll need to find an official or reliable source, not an inconclusive pic of a ship under construction. If it really is L61, it should not be hard to find one. - BillCJ (talk) 07:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The 2007-2008 edition of Jane's Fighting Ships has the hull number field blank but includes an artist's impression of the ship with LHD1 on her side. --Nick Dowling (talk) 07:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Him numeral is L61.... You can see complete ship (but not finished) here and here in a whole photograph with this number (diferent from previous... and in second link, with a lot of photos of this naval construction) .... The worst blind is the person that dont want see... (sorry for my short english...)--217.15.37.231 (talk) 07:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Spanish numerals for anbibious:

Terrebonne Parish-Class (LST); 3 Ships :(L-11, L-12 and L-13)

Paul Revere Class (LPA); 2 Ships: (L-21 and L-22)

Galicia Class (LSD): 1 Ship: (L-31)

Newport Class (LST); 2 ships: (L-41 and L-42)

Galicia Class (LPD); 2 Ships: (L-51 and L-52)

Juan Carlos I Class (LHD); 1 Ship: (L61)

--217.15.37.231 (talk) 08:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Without sources, your list proves absolutely nothing. I've done some Google searching, and "L61" appears in a number of older articles, but the newer ones usually use "LHD1". the [[www.navantia.es Navantia] website has only one image, which appears to be computer-generated, and it shows "LHD1" on the side, not "L61". However, I have found no official source at either Navantia or at [www.armada.mde.es], the official Spanish Navy site, which lists, in text, any pennant number at all. Therefore, in the absence of reliable sources, I think it would be best to remove any mention of a pennant number until such time as the Spanish Navy clears up the issue, either in print, or in actual pictures of the real ship. In the meantime, Juan Carlos I (BPE ship) should suffice, although Juan Carlos I (LHD ship) would be OK with me too. - BillCJ (talk) 09:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Please... see this photo ... in this, you can see the vessel two days ago (20 february 2008)... the crane have got the Navantia logo, and the shep, have got the numeral L-61 paint in dark gray over light gray

the vessel is in painting process, 17 days for launching--217.15.37.231 (talk) 09:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, as "Buque" translates as "vessel" of "ship", is not the latter redundant in the article name?! Nick Cooper (talk) 16:16, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course it's redundant! I moved it there on purpose to see how smart our editors were. :p Or, I felt most readers wouldn't know what "BPE" meant, and added ship for explanatory purposes. Also, Juan Carlos I (ship) has been used, and as a non-admin, I can't move a page over a pre-existing redirect. I just wanted to get it off of the "LHD1" name as quickly as possible, and I was headed to bed at the time. Anyone is welcome to move it somewhere else! - BillCJ (talk) 18:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

- BillCJ (talk) 18:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Vol. XXII, issue 4, 2008 of Military technology, page 128 shows pictures of the ship being launched and verifies the whole article. She was launch March the 10th and is expected to be commissioned in December 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.250.155.168 (talk) 10:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)