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Happy editing! SmartGuy (talk) 16:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Lots of bad information on the net regarding the history of poker

There have been a lot of bad information out their on the net regarding poker's history, mainly from online poker websites or Poker news pages, not historians. Most of these errors do not use citations, so we have no idea where the author's got their information

Common errors found in many bad sources:

Error 1) As Nas is an ancient game that is surely connected to poker. Comment: For a game where the earliest evidence of its existence dates back to 1890, well after poker, there have been a lot of people claiming it is connected to poker. Some common mistakes say the game dates back to the 16th century, or even the 14th century. I believe the mistakes come from the fact that the Ganjifa pack, the deck used for As Nas, dates back to the 1700s (which, btw, is the 18th century). The source of this error likely comes from Hayano. Poker Faces. University of California Press. Berkeley. 1982. p8 that confidentely said As Nas dates back to the 16th century, but without giving an explanation as to why the author believed it. The problem is that we don't know the game used in this deck, and the fact that the original deck used 90 cards, was probably not used for As Nas or any poker related game. Also, there are earlier games before the 16th century that are similar to poker.

2) Pochen dates back to the to the 18th century: Comment: No it doesn't. It is, in fact, the oldest known game that closely resembles poker. Dating back to the 15h century, this makes Pochen, not Primero, Brag, As Nas, or even Poque, the most likely earliest ancestor of Poker.

Error 3) Poker history dates back to China: While this may in fact explain the origins of Poker cards, there is no evidence that the ancient Chinese played a game even remotely resembling poker.

Error 4) Primero is a Spanish game that is the oldest game resembling poker: Primero is actually an Italian game, and is not the oldest game that resembles poker

Error 5) The 52 card deck was introduced in the 1900s I saw this, literally, on at least 3 websites. I mean, cmon.....really? Where do these people get their information?

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] South Park comments

Hello, I wanted to point out to you that in your discussion of libertarianism on the South Park page, you misrepresented the concept quite badly. You were speaking of the American Libertarian party, but libertarianism itself is actually quite different. There is no defined economic position for libertarians; it is quite simply the opposite of authoritarianism and purely a social ideology. Just the way being a Canadian liberal does not necessarily mean supporting the Canadian Liberal party, being an American libertarian does not necessarily mean having any interest whatsoever in the American Libertarian party.

It's very important to differentiate between parties and ideologies.Fofe510 (talk) 19:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About Lee Falk

Hello. Sorry, but I did not add any information in that article; I just add the interwiki es (after I created that article in Spanish Wikipedia)... --Melisa River my talk 21:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)