User talk:Jrincayc

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Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need any questions answered about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or drop me a line. BTW, great work on your contribs to the Supply and demand article. Cheers! --maveric149

Thanks.

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. sorry to start off on the wrong foot, but I notice you're adding articles which are poorly named. While I'm glad to see you adding to the project, typically we try to name articles in a way that's concise and would fit in a standard sentence. That is, Surplus,Supply and demand wouldn't, because it has an unnecessary capital and is missing a space between "surplus," and "supply". I'm not sure what suggestions others might make, since I'm not at all knowledgeable about economic issues. But in the meantime could you see wikipedia:Naming conventions before you continue? Thanks, Koyaanis Qatsi

Fixed.

See list of economics topics for a good list of good article titles in this field. Also see Talk:Economics where there are now links to a lot of names of articles, of which about half have been written, and all of which *need* to be. - 142

You left me a message:

Minor request. Can you please fill in the summary field more often, especially when it is not a minor edit. Thanks (makes it easier for me to remember if I have looked a a particular edit before).

I'll try to remember. I tend to get sloppy late at night. On a completely unrelated topic, what do you think about the article two part tariff? I have never heard the term used to describe segmentation strategies or price discrimination strategies. This looks like a candidate for VFD. What do you think? mydogategodshat 06:00, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

My understanding of a two part tariff is when you have 2 components to the price of a product or service. For example an initial price plus a monthly subscriber fee. User:mydogategodshat 06:57, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It is a form a second-degree price discrimination since essentially it is a quantity discount. I have cleaned up the article and added an example (I also removed the coupon and mail in rebates from the list of methods of imlementing since they sort of are, but they are also a third degree method of price discriminating as well (consumers with more time than money) so it is confusing) so take a look at it now that it is fixed. Jrincayc 15:28, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Excellent work on two part tariff. That was quite a transformation, from one of the worst economics artcles to one of the better ones. I only have one specific comment. The Porter link needs some explanation. It is not clear what the two part tariff has to do with either Porter generic strategies or Porter 5 forces analysis. mydogategodshat 07:57, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I am not sure what the porter competative model is so I can't answer that one. Membership discount retailers definatly can be considered a two part tariff. If you know and it doesn't make sense, then go ahead and remove the link. Jrincayc 14:29, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I think I will remove the link because the connection is weak and certainly not clear without much more elaboration. mydogategodshat Moved rest of discussion to Talk:Giffen goods

[edit] Economics

The reason no edit summary is given is because I used the rollback button, which automatically inserts the words reverted to last edit by ... and marks the revert as minor. The reason the revert was made is because User:142.177.etc is a hard banned user. If hard banned users attempt to circumvent their ban and continue editing, the general guideline is to auto-revert them. It's just a way of enforcing the ban when IP blocks don't work. Having said that, if you feel the content is useful, there is nothing stopping you reinserting it. In fact, some articles by this user, which would otherwise have been deleted, have been "kidnapped" by Cyan so that other users feeling the content is useful can repost it under their own name. There's a list of them at User:Cyan/kidnapped if you're interested. There are more details of the ban of this user under his other login names at User:Mediator/ban and User:EntmootsOfTrolls/ban. Angela . 15:44, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Additional comments : in spite of what Angela says, User:Mediator is not hold by the banned user any more, so there is no sense in removing what has been written by that user. Besides, reverting good edits by banned users is controversial. Feel free to revert any edits you think are relevant. thanks PomPom

Fine, you do that. Here's a link: Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#Requests_and_nominations_for_de-adminship. You might want to request desysopship of the following at the same time as they have all done exactly the same thing over the past month. If you have an issue with the policy, I suggest you write to the mailing list or something rather than making threats towards me. Angela .

Tell me where this policy is so I can go and complain about it there. If this is a general policy, then I severely disagree with it, and not necessarily you for carrying out the policy. Jrincayc 21:51, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Bans and blocks which states

All edits by a hard banned user made since their ban, regardless of their merits, may be reverted by any user. We ask that users not reinstate any edits made by banned users, but some strongly oppose this policy

How else do you propose to enforce a ban if a user is allowed to carry on editing? Angela . 21:55, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Funny, I can't seem to find the place where it states that all edits from an ISP that has had a banned user are to be considered edits from the banned user and should be reverted. I am right now working on hand examining the edit to Economics and it is mostly an improvement to the article. That same page you quote states:

Most Wikipedians are good contributors, and we encourage people to show good Wikiquette when dealing with them. For example, we suggest that it is almost always better to fix bad edits, rather than revert them. In particular, reverting without some meaningful comment is particularly frustrating and off-putting to newcomers.

Where is the evidence that the edits by a user from sympatico.ca (an isp with thousands of people) was the same person as the banned user? You have no proof and you reverted edits that are valid nonvandalism edits of an unknown user. I think that was wrong. Jrincayc 22:13, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I never said "all edits from an ISP that has had a banned user are to be considered edits from the banned user". If you refuse to be civil about this (making edit summaries such as "bullshit"), then I do not intend to discuss this further with you. Try reading Wikipedia:Wikiquette. Angela . 22:17, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I apologize for getting out of hand. I should not have used BS as an edit summary. While you have not directly stated that "all edits from an ISP that has had a banned user are to be considered edits from the banned user", so far as I can tell, the only evidence that you have about 142.177.92.201 being EntmootsOfTrolls, is that they are from the same ISP. Therefore, from my point of view, it seems that you are operating under the assumetion "all edits from an ISP that has had a banned user are to be considered edits from the banned user." If I am mistaken, I would like to hear why I am mistaken on this point. Again, I apologize for getting out of hand and being uncivil. Jrincayc 22:30, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Thanks. You can tell this user by the type of edits he makes. As Adam Bishop said today "IPs tend not to make the kind of sweeping edits, or fully wikified new articles that he makes". Also, I know the topics he works on and the biases he adds to articles, and also the kind of edit summary he makes. He has also created the same articles at Simple recently. Added to this, I knew he was active on Wikipedia as he had been editing Simple and Meta very shortly before, and his edits on Meta are a dead give away - he was creating pages like Banned user club! I am fully aware that not every 142 address is EofT but I strongly believe that this one was. Angela . 00:48, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I think that you are probably right about the articles that you reverted. I do however strongly disagree with the revert all edits even if they are useful contributions policy. Jrincayc 16:07, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

this is fine Jrincayc. Some prefer reverting in any cases; others, less numerous, support keeping the good edits. Just do as you feel. And be aware reverting back will anger or sadden or just midly irritate those who prefer removing all banned users stuff. So try to do it *only* when it is really worth. Also, Angel knows 142 kind of edits quite well, so likely, when she feels it is 142 edit, it very probably is.

[edit] I agree with you about output elasticity

Hi JR, I recall that last month you mentioned that production theory basics would be improved by adding some price, cost, and output elasticity material to it. My comment at the time was that I wanted to keep the article purely non-monetary because the introduction of prices would be too much for some readers to handle in this introductory article and might reduce the clarity of the rest of the material in the article.

I think you are right that this material should be introduced somewhere, in fact, I have discovered that I have to cover it. I was fixing a stub social cost that was on cleanup which lead to my rewriting the article on welfare economics. But I realised that I can’t explain welfare economics adequately without dealing with the pricing and optimum usage of factor inputs, so I am going to start an article optimum factor allocation in which we can add issues like output elasticity, Marginal Revenue Product, and Marginal Resource Costs. In the production theory basics article I want to add a section on isoquants. Just thought I would keep you informed about what I am doing in case you have any more good suggestions.

By the way, what do you think of the new expanded economics page? mydogategodshat 22:19, 24 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Okay. The new economics page looks fairly good. I looked at the isoquants section, and added a comment about more that two dimensional isoquants. I have a thesis to write in the next few months (on teaching the pumping lemma), so I will be rather time constrained, but I will try to continue to at least look at the changes that are happening on wikipedia's economics section. Keep up the good work. Jrincayc 16:00, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the nomination on labour economics. I would like to reciprocate. What are some of the better articles that you have writen or contributed to? mydogategodshat 01:06, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome. Supply and demand might be approriate to nominate. Jrincayc 17:47, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Hello from Berlin

Hi, nice to meet another economist. I saw you are interested in programming languages as well, so I wondered if you might help me with a project about learning I am starting. Please check my user page and let me know. Get-back-world-respect 21:56, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Well, I haven't programmed in basic for a while, and I don't have easy access to quick basic any more (since I use Linux and Mac OS X), but I might take a look some time. If you have specific questions, if you email me the question and the code you have a question about, I will probably respond fairly quickly to it. Jrincayc 03:16, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Specialization Versus Study

It was just the wrong word. It was just clearly the wrong word. "I specialize in Macroeconomics" isn't something I've ever heard. "I specialize in open currency flow models for developing economies" is. Stirling Newberry 13:25, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I agree with the revert. I just think that the summary "reverting minor useless edit" 1) does not explain why the edit was reverted 2) does not give any hint as to how if the editor had a good reason they should explain the reason. 3) could seem nasty to a newcommer. Jrincayc 02:34, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Problems

What kind of problems do you expect to be discussed on the Wikipedia:Unsolved_Problems page? It's not at all clear to me. David Merrill 15:01, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Things that are currently at Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is not so great, but lack evidence. Jrincayc 15:07, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Something to read

Please consider reading this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snowspinner/Avala_Evidence

and then voting here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#User:Snowspinner_.2854.2F6.2F2.29_Ends_17:06.2C_31_July_2004

-- orthogonal 18:17, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] The Business and Economics Forum

What you might ask is the Business and Economics Forum? Well, Im not sure yet. At this point it is little more than scattered thoughts in my scattered mind. But I do have a vision of what it could be so I wrote this. I respect your opinion, so I am asking for your input before I mention it to anyone else, or list it on the community portal. I am particularly asking for any ideas you have that might make it work. mydogategodshat 18:51, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] License ?

Hi, what's the license of Image:Monopoly pricing.png ? We use it on french wp and would like to know the original license. Thanks in advance. Tipiac 16:42, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Public domain. I just added the license tag to it. Jrincayc 01:48, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the help with the strategic management nomination. mydogategodshat 20:04, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You are welcome. Thank you for writing such an comprehensive article. Jrincayc 01:15, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinews demo up and running

Hi!

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If you're looking for something to do, check out the articles in development and articles in review. Or start a new story in the Wikinews workspace, or ignore the proposed review system - it's up to you. I hope you'll join us soon in this exciting experiment.--Eloquence * 02:00, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Hardware Status

Revert MacGyverMagic's edit-summary-less revert back to 212.85.24.83's Justified removal of outdated hardware status (It was old and incorrect since local search is now enabled)

True, I could've been better at explaining the revert, my apologies. I'll do it now.

I don't like deletion of material, when simply updating it could fix it. Have you discussed it with other wikipedians before you deleted? Maybe being informed about it will push someone to update the section. Or since you knew it was wrong why not update yourself? It's essential to have the info available.

By the way, due to recent requests on WP:HD I believe we still can't search locally, but on a database dump, which is not the same thing. I think we should ask some other people for their opinions first. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 15:46, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

You managed to hit a pet peeve of mine. I have had a edit of mine that I thought was constructive but was reverted with the default revert message. I was rather ticked off about it for an hour or so. I can agree that the deletion probably was wrong, but I think 212.85 probably was well meaning, and so the revert without giving a reason probably would annoy them. I see a fair number of posts on forum sites about how wikipedia is too quick to revert, and sometimes I think there might be a case. In other words, I think the there was good reason for you to revert 215.85's edit, however, I think you should have given a specific reason for your revert. (Of course, deleting material is probably your pet peeve ;) Jrincayc 02:06, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] not

Nah. It's cool. I didn't read enough context before putting it in and got upward/downward sloping backwards. And then I stuffed it in between the wrong two words. It's what I get for doing edits waiting for important stuff to finish running. Blair P. Houghton 04:42, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

That okay. That's what watchlists are for :) Jrincayc 13:29, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Economics article

What do you mean you second the request for an explanation for my revert? You should have read the talk page prior to putting that on my talk page because I already left an "explanation". I also edited the article again if you are interested in reviewing it. I changed to "all things equal..." for ceteris paribus and I also updated the talk page again if you are interested in reading my "explanation" again. UH Collegian 02:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I missed that explaination when I wrote the message on your talk page. Sorry. Jrincayc 02:23, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Since you are interested in economics, I have a question for you. Now, most universities in the U.S. categorize economics as a "social science" and award either a BS or BA, which I agree with. However, some universities (mostly small ones), categorize economics as "business administration" and grant a BBA degree, which I do not agree with and is totally wrong in my opinion. What is your stance on this?

I think that sounds somewhat strange, but I can't say I particularly have a opionion on that. For what its worth, at the University I went to, economics was part of the Agriculture College (you can probably guess that they had a strong agricultural economics program from that fact). Jrincayc 03:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Monopoly

You reverted my revert on that article. You must have overlooked something. The edit I reverted was clearly vandalism. It removed a part of a paragraph that looks like it belongs there. It offered no explanation for doing so. And it left a fragment of a sentence lingering there. Please take another look. Rl 14:43, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

You are completely right. My appologies. I misread the diff. Jrincayc 14:54, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I was reading through the monopoly article and saw that your monopoly diagram has Profit shown as a polygon. Is this a mistake, or am I missing something?

Yes, profit is a polygon of the revenue minus the cost to produce. If this doesn't make sense, ask on the talk page for monopoly. Jrincayc 12:15, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

My query was more in relation to the profit area being shown. Surely an ATC (or AC) curve is required to derive the cost of production at the Monopoly output? I could be wrong, but I think the diagram and associated description at the moment are misleading.

If I recall correctly $AC(Q)*Q = \int_0^Q{MC(q)dq}$ , so the area of the marginal cost will give the total cost to the company. In other words, the marginal cost and the average cost curve are related so either could be used for this graph. Jrincayc 02:15, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User categorization

Greetings! Your user page hasn't been vandalized :-) --it was updated to use the new User Categorization scheme. I have categorized your User Page as a Wikipedian in Idaho (Category:Wikipedians in Idaho) since your name was listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Idaho page. The Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Idaho page is scheduled for deletion. Thanks! Roby Wayne ^{Talk • Hist} 00:02, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation

Hi, Would you be interested in joining WikiProject Business and Economics?. Thanks. --Pamri ^{• Talk • Reply} 12:32, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Microeconomics rewrite

Hi, User:Radeksz has proposed a rewrite of Microeconomics on that article's talk page, in case you care to have a look. dbtfz ^talk 09:10, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] consumer theory

Hello. Perhaps you can address my recent comments at talk:consumer theory? Michael Hardy 22:24, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qur'an

Hi, Thanks for your attention.I should be more careful.--Sa.vakilian 18:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the date. Jrincayc 19:40, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non sequitur: Space War! & Jrincayc

1. I apologize for intruding, and I hope I'm writing this in the right place. Tonight upon searching for a playable version of the world's second video game, Space War!, I found that Jrincayc has had some historical involvement in this matter: he was listed as the keeper of the source code of a version of it written in 1998. It seems to me that it would be appropriate that he be mentioned somewhere in this connection.

2. As open as he has kept his life on the web, I'd love to have an email contact for him which seems mysteriously not listed where I've looked. Can someone supply that to me, please?

3. As I know little to nothing about the internal workings of Wikipedia, and having only recently attempted a first edit to correct some obvious typos, I know nothing about the messaging conventions on this page, and I apologize in advance if what I've written here is inappropriate in any way.

4. Thanks in advance for your patience,

jim the corndodger corndodger2@hotmail.com

Reply via email. Jrincayc 03:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Discrete_supply_and_demand.png listed for deletion

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[edit] Image:Indifference_curve_perfect_comp.png listed for deletion

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[edit] Image:Indifference_curve_perfect_sub.png listed for deletion

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[edit] WikiProject Idaho

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[edit] hi. Just wanted to say: nice page!

Hi. I just wanted to compliment your page. It looks nice! And if there was a friends list, I'd add you.

[edit] Meraki

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[edit] substitution effect

hi there. I am disputing that the figure you drew at Consumer_theory for the substitution effect is correct. However, I do have to say that I love the figures, they are some of the best I've seen! Can you tell me what you used to create them? (The image in question is Image:Substitution_effect.png). Pdbailey (talk) 15:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I used Xfig to create the diagrams. (Inkscape is another one that might be work trying.) Jrincayc (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I use mainly R to create graphics. But it doesn't have a fully functional vector graphics add on yet. Looking at your figures, I can see that for thin lines and figures with loads of detail, this is hugely helpful. Thanks for the links! Pdbailey (talk) 18:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)