User talk:Joysstick

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A tag has been placed on your article The Mutants (San Francisco), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be a biographical account about a person, group of people, or band, but it does not indicate how or why he/she/they is/are notable. If you can indicate why The Mutants (San Francisco) is really notable, I advise you to edit the article promptly, and also put a note on Talk:The Mutants (San Francisco). Any admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles. You might also want to read our general biography criteria. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that admins should wait a while for you to assert his/her/their notability, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and then immediately add such an assertion. It is also a very good idea to add citations from reliable sources in order that your article will be verifiable. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you think I'm harassing you but I assure you that is not my intention — merely to make good articles. Your article about the band came into my view simply because of the name, and I treat it like I would any other article I come across that needs work. Please assume good faith. You'll note that the article is now an external reference, so it's not as if the content is completely unavailable or not even noted on the page.

But to address your points — firstly, whether you have permission to use the article or not is really neither here nor there; the question is whether the article has been released into the public domain, since not only is it going to be here on Wikipedia, but it's going to be copied to every site that mirrors Wikipedia's content. I don't think your permission extends that far, but even assuming it does...

Secondly, simply cutting and pasting an entire article is not good writing, and the way the article is written, might also violate WP:NPOV. You might want to try rephrasing and integrating the content of the article into the page in a way that adheres to Wikpedia policies and guidelines.

Once again, all we are trying to do is to make good articles, and to have them of a particular standard. It is an ongoing process, and we have to do it one article at a time. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

After you completely removed The Mutants (San Francisco) page from Wikipedia I needed an article to show you that The Mutants are definitely a major band.

I have permission from the publisher to use this article and the use of this article is for educational purposes, describes the history ot the band and is fully citable. The outside link is an error and does not link to the original article.

I am a new user and I do not appreciate the way that you constantly remove my content as soon as I post it.

Joysstick 23:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)joysstick

I've removed the outside link; but as I pointed out, simply cutting and pasting the whole article is not good encyclopedic writing. Please try to rephrase and integrate the information properly rather than just pasting it wholesale. Once again, I apologize if you've taken offense, but my intention is simply to ensure that articles adhere to Wikipedia policies. Thanks. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 23:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Mutants

It looks like this page will stay on Wikipedia, and so I'd like to work with you to get the article up to scratch. Firstly, it needs to be categorized. I would suggest looking at similar bands (but the most renowned, eg. Nirvana) for ideas on how to class the article. Also, please format the references (thanks for adding these by the way) using WikiBib, which formats the references to suit Wikipedia. Hopefully this shows I am always willing to improve content which is worthy of Wikipedia, and it seems the community agrees this article is just that. Harro5 23:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• The deletion vote lasts for one week, at which point the article will be kept. Harro5 05:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

JS - I just did a substantial cleanup of your Mutants article, so that should remove any final objection to keeping it. If you can get a picture of The Mutants to include with the article (a picture that you have permission to use or is uncopyrighted), please add the picture to the article. If you don't know how to do this, drop me a line on my Talk page and I'll let you know where to upload the photo, and I'll take care of putting it with the article. Preferably, the photo should be from the late 70s/early 80s, showing the band in its heyday. Peter G Werner 06:11, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:SFMutants.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:SFMutants.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 03:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)