Talk:Joy Hakim

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[edit] Proper grammar and syntax

Please use it.

[edit] Straw men

' However, she has faced some criticism for being "too multicultural" and trying to make history "fun" for kids." '

This is highly biased. Who doesn't want history to be "fun"? From Straw man: A straw man "argument" is a bogus, distorted or deliberately flawed interpretation of an otherwise valid position that has been altered so it can be more easily attacked, delegitimized and disassembled (hence the straw man metaphor) before the eyes and ears of an otherwise impartial audience unfamiliar with the facts and history of an issue or case.

— Omphaloscope talk 01:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


The article used to say that the criticism was for trying to make it "fun" at the expense of accuracy. A convenient editing out, eh? 12.175.230.56 06:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] More Straw Man

' However, she has faced some criticism, generally from conservatives, for being "too multicultural", too hard on conservative presidents and not critical enough of liberal administrations. '

The way the article is currently written, it looks like it's trying to make conservatives look petty in their complaints, thus delegitimizing the actual (unsourced and unquoted) arguments that may have been proposed by said conservatives. Imagine if it were reworded to say:

' However, there is much criticism, mostly from those that lived through some eras covered in her books, that her works are overly international and un-American, in addition to the defamation of conservative presidents and the ignoring of liberal politicians' faults. '

Although it would have nearly the opposite effect to word it that way, all that's changed is the exact phrasing. None of the verified facts have been changed. 12.175.230.56 06:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Citations

Although there are some external links, there are no citations within the article itself. The article should reference the complaints that it refers to when it talks about the controversies and criticisms of the subject. 12.175.230.56 06:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Editing of Wikipedia article by the subject

I just checked the edit history and the last two edits were by someone with the username "Joy Hakim". If this person really is Joy Hakim, then I think this violates policies on editing one's own article. If the person is not really Joy Hakim, then I think that it is a case of impersonation which I also believe to be against Wikipedia policies. MarkGyver 23:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)