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[edit] Speedy deletion of Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak

A tag has been placed on Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Eastlygod (talk) 16:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia

Hi Joshnadler. Welcome to Wikipedia! I see you jumped right in and created an article. We need all the contributions and help we can get, however, there were a few problems with your article and someone (not me) but a "speedy delete" tag on it. I don't necessarily agree with the tag but I put it back because: when you add {{hangon}} you are not supposed to delete the CSD tag. Just one of the many many rules. OK, speaking of the many rules, some thoughts on your article:

  • Please don't put Trademark symbols in article titles, see the Manual of Sytle entry on Trademarks. In fact, we shouldn't have TM or circle-R anywhere in articles unless it is absolutely necessary.
  • Please do not add personal information in articles as you did on your article. The article is an encyclopedia entry, not a vanity page for your accomplishments (that sounds really rude as I type it, sorry, it is meant to be matter-of-fact)
  • Please reference your article with reliable sources
  • Lastly, please check out the conflict of interest guideline.

As I said there are lots and lots of rules and unfortunately they can be a bit bewildering at first. It can be really disheartening to have your first contribution get banged around so I hope you take it in stride and not get discouraged. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like help getting the article past all these barriers. Cheers, Noah 16:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

Hi Josh. Do you have an references for the tree? Specifically, scholarly journal articles, magazine articles, botanist web pages, etc? Noah 17:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kindred Spirit Hybrid Oak

Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article Kindred Spirit Hybrid Oak, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 18:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button Image:Signature_icon.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 23:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:'Nadler' Fig. 2.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:'Nadler' Fig. 2.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Polly (Parrot) 03:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problems

First off, as several people have said, your conflict of interest is so strong here that you shouldn't be doing any editing, with one major exception: anybody can and should delete vandalism, quickly and without mercy. No need to put a tag on it; Be BOLD! - just eradicate it immediately, like leafy spurge invading a pasture. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Notability is established as outlined in our notability guidelines (oddly enough, we don't have a specialized guideline for a plant). We badly need some evidence that this topic has been addressed in articles from reliable sources. Has the tree been discussed (not just mentioned in passing) in gardening, forestry or arboricultural magazines and books? If not, it's likely to be deleted soon as non-notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


I put a link to the United States Plant Patent Office on this page. This is looked at as a more creditable source than any of the above options that you mentioned. Not trying to get personal but if you, Orangemike, had been around the application process of a patent and worked with the patent evaluators to prove the worth of the plant selection, you would warrant the placement of page on Wikipedia. Every aspect of the patent is backed by science. All of the options listed above are subject to personal and popular opinion. Please feel free to contact me regarding this issue.--Joshnadler (talk) 03:38, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

You also should not be drawing undue attention to the conflict of interest by repeatedly adding images of this unusual hybrid to key plant articles, like Leaf, Branch, and Acorn. These are not vanity articles; they are general articles covering all plants globally. Adding images of the "Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak" to all these articles is tantamount to spam. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak Leaves.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Hi Joshnadler!
We thank you for uploading Image:Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak Leaves.jpg, but there is a problem. Your image is currently missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Unless you can help by adding a copyright tag, it may be deleted by an Administrator. If you know this information, then we urge you to add a copyright tag to the image description page. We apologize for this, but all images must confirm to policy on Wikipedia.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks so much for your cooperation.
This message is from a robot. --John Bot III (talk) 14:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Acorns of Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Hi Joshnadler!
We thank you for uploading Image:Acorns of Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak.jpg, but there is a problem. Your image is currently missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Unless you can help by adding a copyright tag, it may be deleted by an Administrator. If you know this information, then we urge you to add a copyright tag to the image description page. We apologize for this, but all images must confirm to policy on Wikipedia.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks so much for your cooperation.
This message is from a robot. --John Bot III (talk) 14:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak Without Leaves.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Hi Joshnadler!
We thank you for uploading Image:Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak Without Leaves.jpg, but there is a problem. Your image is currently missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Unless you can help by adding a copyright tag, it may be deleted by an Administrator. If you know this information, then we urge you to add a copyright tag to the image description page. We apologize for this, but all images must confirm to policy on Wikipedia.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks so much for your cooperation.
This message is from a robot. --John Bot III (talk) 14:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Hi Joshnadler!
We thank you for uploading Image:Kindred Spirit® Hybrid Oak.jpg, but there is a problem. Your image is currently missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Unless you can help by adding a copyright tag, it may be deleted by an Administrator. If you know this information, then we urge you to add a copyright tag to the image description page. We apologize for this, but all images must confirm to policy on Wikipedia.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks so much for your cooperation.
This message is from a robot. --John Bot III (talk) 14:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Kindred Spirit® Unmature Acorns.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Hi Joshnadler!
We thank you for uploading Image:Kindred Spirit® Unmature Acorns.jpg, but there is a problem. Your image is currently missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Unless you can help by adding a copyright tag, it may be deleted by an Administrator. If you know this information, then we urge you to add a copyright tag to the image description page. We apologize for this, but all images must confirm to policy on Wikipedia.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks so much for your cooperation.
This message is from a robot. --John Bot III (talk) 14:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ® and copyright marks

We do not use either of these symbols in our article or image titles, and very sparingly indeed, if at all, in the text of articles. Please purge them from your contributions. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)