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This is a major revision of this article. NPOV has been maintained and sources cities.
Due to lack of documentation, the claim that Joseph Standing’s middle was the same as his mother’s possible maiden name “Standing,” this entry has been removed from the article and moved to the Note section (See Note 2). I contacted the editor who originally added the reference and he did not have a valid source for the entry. Thank you, Matthew R. Lee 22:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Joseph Standing's Middle Name
Sesmith, I have found very little documentation supporting a claim that Joseph Standing's middle name was “Standing”. I removed it from the article and added an entry to the notes documenting that his mother’s (Mary Standing) maiden name may have been Standing. That her maiden name and Joseph’s middle name were both Standing, is still questionable. The only source I’ve found for this is FamilySearch.org. Unfortunately, the information in this specific collection on familysearch.org can be submitted by anyone, is not checked for accuracy, and is often unreliable.
It was for this reason that I contacted you in May. Here is our conversation from your Talk Page.
Can you provide a source for “Standing” being Joseph Standing's middle name? I’m preparing a major revision of this page and, with the exception of FamilySearch.org, I’ve found no mention of his middle name in published sources. The history for your minor edit says; middle name was "Standing" too -- Joseph Standing Standing (his mother's maiden name was also Standing.
This may be accurate but it is odd enough that it needs a source. FamilySearch.org gives him the middle initial of "S" on some entires and his middle name as "Standing" on others. Is this your source? Thank you, User:Matthewrlee|Matthew R. Lee]] 23:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Honestly, I can't recall what the source was. I usually don't use familysearch.org, so I don't think I got it from there. I probably just dredged it up from the back of my mind, having read it somewhere before. I will think on it. –SESmith 23:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I’ve provided links to over a dozen contemporary online sources to support my claims and documented my sources. If you feel strongly that Joseph Standing’s middle name was also “Standing” and that it needs to be displayed predominately in the article, then please, do the work and take the time to provide a source before you add it back again. Thank you, Matthew R. Lee
- Uh, it's not normal to have to provide a reference for a middle name on WP, but since you doubt: see Alice Standing (ed), History of James Standing and Mary Standing Standing and Family, (Provo, Utah: Stevenson's Genealogy Centre, 1992) p. 54. Second confirmatory source: International Genealogical Index, film 178087, p. 407. –SESmith 09:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the source! I’ve added it to the notes. Matthew R. Lee 19:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Use of "ibid."
The use of "ibid." in a number of the citations in this article is problematic. If a citation is added in between the "ibid." citation and the one above it, the entire system is messed up. The article is not necessarily going to be permanently static, and this should be kept in mind when adding sources. –SESmith 10:11, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Good point. I changed the citations. Thank you, Matthew R. Lee 18:25, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
