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[edit] Need major re-write

I think this page seriously need a re-write as it contains non-neutral tones and seemingly self-promoting style of writing. Whoever wrote this article should rewrite it in a more encyclopedia-style - just the facts, without the fluff. I am inclined to remove some of those fluff.Atticuslai 09:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Tell me what you think about this. - 218.186.9.5 07:32, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks much better. Now all we need is more content. Atticuslai 05:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

I mean no disrespect to Joseph Prince, but I have concerns about whether or not he is notable enough for a Wikipedia bio, per WP:BIO. This article needs to have information from reliable sources confirming that he is notable outside of his immediate community. I'm willing to give the article a bit more time to breathe, but if people just keep deleting the tags, then we should probably nominate it for deletion and let the community decide. --Elonka 16:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I support the call for deletion of this article. Atticuslai 02:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Exactly what sources do you want. The guy's a pastor and not a superstar. - 222.164.89.16 10:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Right, and if he's just a pastor, he shouldn't have an article on Wikipedia. See WP:BIO. In order to be notable enough to be "encyclopedic" there need to be reliable third-party sources which prove that the individual is "famous." Newspaper articles, magazine articles, books about him, that kind of thing. If those can't be provided, the Wikipedia article should probably be deleted, or the information should be merged into some other article. --Elonka 10:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Can sources from things like religious conferences be sufficient? - 222.164.89.16 10:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Depends on the kind of source, and what kind of information it's providing... If he was a primary Guest of Honor at a major conference, that would help to establish notability, yes. If the source is just saying that he was an attendee or speaker though, then it wouldn't be as helpful. Show us what you've got? --Elonka 19:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
(followup) After further researching it, I stand by my opinion that Joseph Prince is not notable enough for a separate Wikipedia bio at this time. However, I do think it's worth having a paragraph about him at the New Creation Church article. I recommend merging the information from the Joseph Prince article there for now, and then the name "Joseph Prince" can be setup as a redirect to the Church article. If he becomes more individually notable in the future, meaning known outside of Singapore, it'll be easy enough to re-establish a separate article. --Elonka 21:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it is best to merge the article with the Church's. Joseph Prince currently lacks the notability. Atticuslai 23:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

All right, I'll see what I an do to expand his section there with information from here. 218.186.9.4 11:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The Joseph Prince section in the New Creation Church (Singapore) article has been expanded. If anyone thinks that it is acceptable, they can add "#redirect New Creation Church (Singapore)#Senior pastor Joseph Prince" to this article.218.186.9.4 12:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)