Talk:Joseph McMoneagle
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[edit] Category change
Categories were changed in accordance with the recent Arbitration decision on the paranormal, specifically Adequate framing and Cultural artifacts, though other sections may apply. –––Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 02:30, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Future
Predicting that temporary tattoos will be in vogue in 2005 is not a particularly noteworthy prediction unless the tattoos were more in vogue in 2005 than in 2004 or 2006. Is there evidence that this was the case? Or is there possibly a prediction that's more easily verified as having occurred? Antelan talk 23:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Also, unless his predictions were notable, it may be worth just noting one or two of the "best" and one or two of the "worst". This has been done elsewhere, such as the Ed Dames article, I believe. Antelan talk 00:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Misleading
"He has predicted future events" is misleading as written. In my first several reads of this article, it struck me that this meant that he has predicted future events successfully. This is why I placed the fact tag. I still think this needs to be rewritten, backed up by evidence, or removed. Antelan talk 01:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Why in the world you think that means McMoneagle predictions of future events would be sucessfull? Nostradamus, the Bible, Jean Dixon, Halley, Einstein, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Black Elk, and even you and I can predict future events. We do not have to be correct. To conclude whether predictions are true or false is left up to the reader (or hopefully the investigator) to discover for themself. The evidence that McMoneagle predicted events is shown at future, the statements themselves and even the page numbers in the primary source, from McMoneagle. Kazuba 01:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, and in those articles (specifically Ed Dames and Nostradamus) it is made clear when these predictions have turned out not to be true. In fact, if he hasn't made a correct prediction, I bet we'd have a hard time finding secondary sources interested enough to care about his predictions - i.e., they may not be notable. Antelan talk 03:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'd agree. "He has predicted future events" is misleading, nevertheless, as it implies that these "future events" that he "predicted" actually exist. A "future event" that never comes to pass is not a "future event" at all, it is an imagined event.71.55.106.189 (talk) 01:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Legion of Merit
Searching the net for info about McMoneagle shows up references to him supposedly claiming to have been awarded a Legion of Merit for his work on the Stargate-project. Does anyone know if its possible to verify if this is true or not? Doing a search for it on his own website gives several hits as an example: http://www.google.se/search?q=legion+of+merit+%2Bsite%3Awww.mceagle.com /195.54.97.238 11:36, 5 November 2007
Kazuba 23:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Joseph Mcmoneagle's claim of being awarded the legion of merit looks like it might be legit. See first link, second if you would like to know how it is done in clip
- Compare the narrative data from McMoneagles's RV experiment. [1] and
the last three paragraphs of [2] Notice the selectivity.
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- OK, from the movie it atleast seems like he has been awarded a Legion of Merit (Shows a document and the actual medal rather late in the movie). If the reason for the award is paranormal powers or not could not be determined, since they didnt zoom in on anything stating why he had been given the medal (If such a statement exists its quite strange that the didnt show it in my opinion). However, if he is a Legion of Merit holder, perhaps a small note about it should be included and his name added to the list of people that has recived it? /Lordak 09:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] FEAR?
What is all-caps FEAR? Does it differ from lower-case "fear"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.55.106.189 (talk) 01:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
Article reassessed and graded as start class. However this article really needs to be more focused on the person named in the title rather then on the Stargate program itself. --dashiellx (talk) 11:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
