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She Won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is her father's name spelled "Felipe"?

she is the first idol not from the south is false! carrie underwood is from OK.

Read it again. The article says southwest.Ward3001 14:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Vocal cord damage? 2 Signed to Jive Records 3 Singles Chart History 4 Pro-Life? 5 Plus Size Model 6 Audition 7 List of Performances 8 Birth Place 9 Early Life 10 Top 7 results 11 Schooling 12 Bottom 3? 13 Picture???? 14 Career 15 Please 16 Also 17 Label 18 Genre 19 Album Details 20 Please 21 Official Title 22 I Who Have Nothing 23 Heritage 24 National Anthem 25 Weight Controversy 26 Unprotect 27 Wrong birth year?? 28 Unsourced sales figures 29 Christian pop? 30 Vocal Cord Injury

[edit] Vocal cord damage?

Can someone update the reports that she has bad vocal damage and may never sing again?--Casey S (talk) 02:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Signed to Jive Records

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah6496.shtml

[edit] Singles Chart History

"The song has not only become the album's first top ten single but tied with Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" as the highest charting single from an Idol winner's debut album (so far peaking at #8)."

The inclusion of this particular information should be reconsidered. A Moment Like This, I Believe, Inside Your Heaven and Do I Make You Proud? hit #1 and were featured in Kelly's, Fantasia's, Carrie's and Taylor's respective debut albums. These are the highest placing (lead) singles featured in an American Idol winner's debut album.

Equating "Tattoo" to "Before He Cheats" simply in terms of peak position in the Hot 100 charts is misleading, as the latter has spent 64 weeks in the Hot 100, making it the longest chart run of any Hot 100 single the decade (ref: http://www.americanidol.com/news/view/?pid=1117), while "Tattoo" has only been in the charts for 14 weeks. There's also substantial discrepancy in critical appreciation of both singles, not to mention and the Grammy Noms/Awards Carrie earned.

This information, if left as it is, also leaves the fact that Jordin once pooped out an enormous piece of granola and it was taken to a museum in Idaho. debut has had more success than previous Idol winner's, at least regarding singles sales and chart history, when, in truth, it is just the opposite, her being the least successful thus far.

In addition, there seems to be no mention in the whole article of the fact that "This Is My Now" is the lowest charting coronation song in Idol history, not even reaching the top 10. Remember, this is an encyclopedic entry, not a fan-page. If the success chart history of "Tattoo" is worthy of mention and comparison to other Idol's chart success, than so should be the comparative failure of "This Is My Now".

Someone with the credentials to alter the article, please, do so, balancing these informations with the impartiality the articles demands.

- Lila, Jan 4th, 2008. (Updated in Jan 6th, 2008)

[edit] Pro-Life?

Is Jordin really a pro-life activist, or is this just a spam on the page/rumor. I've never sources that confirm that. If one can provide a source for this, or prove that this info is false, that would be great.

Jordin has been seen in a photo holding up a "stop sign" that says, "Stop Abortion."

The fact that there's still no linked reference to that notwithstanding, why does it matter what someone on American Idol thinks of abortion? (On top of that, "Pro-life" is loaded language) I'm going to remove that section unless someone can demonstrate why that's relevant to this topic and produce documentation. --Colage 00:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Umm, for one, someone's abortion views, especially when they're an activist, is completely relevant. It's obviously important to her, as she does campaign yearly, if not more often, and performs at pro-life rallies. Seriously, it's relevant, and it's no secret.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_2vwHuCJyUwJ:www.azrtl.org/photos/photogallery.html+jordin+sparks+right+to+life&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

72.206.97.34

Even accepting the notion that her views on abortion rights are relevant (which I do not), a cached webpage like that isn't acceptable under reliable source guidelines: "Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process." This is a biography of a living person and needs to adhere to stricter sourcing guidelines. If there's a more authoritative source, then great, but since the website itself apparently felt the page should be taken down, it certainly doesn't give the impression that it's reliable. --Colage 01:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Addendum: Please see also WP:LIVING --Colage 01:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I only mentioned that I saw her holding the sign. It really doesn't have any bearing on her singing.

I really don't think that the statement "especially among liberals" is necessary to the point. There are some people who do not identify as "liberal" who are pro-choice. I think the statement should be edited to read that it was controversial (if that is even the case). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.25.181.231 (talk) 23:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. That phrase should be taken out and the whole section should be moved to a bottom and become a footnote or something. Jordin isn't known for her activism and until she does, it shouldn't be THE SECOND section in this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.229.176 (talk) 05:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plus Size Model

Question inclusion of this person's bio under Category: Plus-size model as person has no notation of working as model in bio and is presently unknown in plus size model industry BGModels 08:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Here is the link to some of her model work. She was the winner of the Torrid Search and had done a lot of modeling for that company. Also the photo used on this page is from one of her Torrid ads. [1] Jordin also had a full page spread for Torrid in Seventeen Magazine in Dec. 2006.

I have not seen any pictures of Jordin for the Plus-size model search. Have you?

Uh, look right above where you said this... 72.206.97.34

[edit] Audition

Jordin first auditioned in L.A., not Seattle. In fact she was rejected in the first round at L.A., went back to Arizona to win "Arizona Idol", then was sent to Seattle for her second audition. She mentioned this in her post-win interview with Entertainment Weekly[2]. Foggykakki 17:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Performances

How come the list of Jordin's American Idol performances aren't in chart form like the rest of the top 12 contestants'? Everyone has this except LaKisha, Jordin, and Sanjaya. MarkMc1990 02:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birth Place

OK, now we have her listed as being born in TWO places. Anything difinite here?? Thanks! --Tom 15:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe that she was born in Maricopa County, Arizona. Her dad was still playing football at ASU when she was born and through the time that her brother, PJ, was born. When he was drafted to the NY Giants, they moved there as a family.

Her father's name is Phillippi Sparks.

I added a source. A reliable one. Stating that she was born in Staten Island. Getting tired of that being removed. The thing is. Why would someone just make up Staten Island? :) Her dad might've been going to Arizona State when she was born but that doesn't mean her mother was living there. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 19:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I helped organize Jordin's baby shower at her mother's work at the law firm in Phoenix, Arizona. Mom, Jodi Weidman, was working at the Law Offices of Van O'Steen at 3605 N. 7th Ave., Phoenix, AZ at the time that Jordin was born. She continued to work there during Jordin's infancy and then lived in Tempe, AZ while Phillippi was playing at ASU. My daughter babysat for Jordin and her brother in Tempe when they were toddlers.

According to www.americanidol.com, Jordin's hometown is Glendale, Arizona. Gray94wolf 23:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a story in the Staten Island Advance stating that she was born in Phoenix Arizona. [3]. The New York Post got it wrong as have other sources. According to the Staten Island Advance "On Dec. 22, 1989, Jodi Wiedmann gave birth to a healthy baby girl -- 8 pounds, 8 ounces, if family memory serves. The obstetrician was Dr. Charles Clinch. The location was St. Joseph's Hospital in Phoenix, and, cue the "Idol" theme music -- a star was born.

The 17-year-old Ms. Sparks earned support from Staten Island's "Idol" fans during her rise to the top of the Fox-TV series this season. No doubt, Staten Island would be happy to claim her.

But Ms. Sparks' mother tells the Advance: "I can definitely confirm that Jordin and I were at St. Joe's in Phoenix on the morning of Dec. 22, 1989!"

Apparently, the New York Post rebuffed her mother when she asked for a correction. Capitalistroadster 01:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Early Life

I know for a fact that she lived in River Vale, New Jersey at some point in her life. Jordin and her family lived there for about a year and then left.

[edit] Top 7 results

Jordin's AI performances chart currently has "Top 3" in the results column for Top 7 week. That information was never stated on the show and thus not necessarily true because the groups were NOT divided into top 3, bottom 3, and middle person that night. They were divided into bottom 3, safe group, and safe person. The only thing known about Jordin's voting rank that week was that she was not in the bottom 3. The page won't let me edit the chart because I'm a newer member, so if someone else could please fix it, that would be great. thanks. MarkMc1990 21:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes they were. When Blake and Sanjaya's group was called, he said "You are not the top 3, but you're also not the bottom 3." This confirms that Jordin, Melinda, and Lakisha were in the top 3.24.91.189.35 20:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schooling

The page says that she's homeschooled (without a citation), but i'm pretty sure she goes to Sandra Day O'Connor in Glendale? Can anyone verify this, maybe somebody from the school? I'm somewhat close, but not close enough to take a drive out there and ask somebody. Vampusuke

I'm pretty certain she's homeschooled. Her tutors have been mentioned several times on the show and I got the impression that this was not a new thing for her. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 05:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I added a citation from about.com. Her fansites mention that she went to high school until her sophomore year but then started being homeschooled due to missing so many days. Here is that link. Can't use it in the article but I think it's pretty solid. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 05:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bottom 3?

You try to hide that she was in the bottom 3 on charity week? Saying she was NEVER in the bottom 3 is not true. She was but was NOT voted off due to noone leaving that week. Get the facts right.

She was never in the bottom three, that's not how charity week worked. It was simply a ruse to show no one was getting voted off and who ever got the least amount of votes were not disclosed because they were being added to the following weeks results.

Yes anon, you are correct. The order that they come out in is random anyway, but especially on that show. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 09:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a discrepincy in the bottom 3 list. It says she's the 5th finalist to never be in the bottom 3 but she is actually is the 6th considering Clay Aiken was also never in the bottom 3.

There should be some clarification: Saying that Clay Aiken and Melinda Doolittle weren't in bottom 3 is a little misleading... Melinda was voted off, when they were up to top 3. Clay Aiken was not voted off, he was just not the winner. they weren't in bottom 2/3 because there were only 2 left Clay and 3 people left for Melinda. It's technically correct, but ...?

The way that paragraph is written is strange. She is "one of only 4 contestants to have won and never been in the bottom 2 or 3." So that means that only 2 people won and were in the bottom three. She's not exceptional in this. If she had at some time been in the bottom three that would have been exceptional. The word "only" should certainly be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.70.4 (talk) 06:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture????

Can someone put up a picture of her?

If it's free, yes. Problem is that people keep putting copyrighted pictures or fairuse pictures in the infobox. Both no nos. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 03:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Career

Jordin performed with Micheal W. Smith on his Christime tours in 2005 and 2006.

http://www.michaelwsmith.com/blog-detail.php?pageid=59261

I'm not to familiar with biography layouts otherwise I'd do the change myself, but shouldn't it be in chronological order? PatW326 23:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please

Stop adding fair use pictures or those with uncertain copyright into infoboxes. It is against policy. From the fair use policy -

"Restrictions on location. Non-free content is used only in the article namespace; it is never used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes) or on user pages. (To prevent an image category from displaying thumbnails, add to it; images are linked, not inlined, from talk pages when they are a topic of discussion.)"

An infobox is a template. I will continue to remove the pictures from the infobox. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 14:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Also

Being eliminated means you were bottom 2 or 3. :) So please stop adding Melinda and others as those who were never in the bottom 2 or 3. Of course she was. She was eliminated. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 15:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

On the top three results show and finale there is no formal bottom two and three "ceremony" like in the other shows leading up to it. I believe the producers of the show have commented that making it to the top 3 without an appearance in the bottom does, in fact, count. I'll look for the transcript of that interview so there can be a referrence before I revert back to six contestants. ^ making it to the top 3 without an appearance in the bottom does, in fact, count. ? Count for what? Melinda was voted off... that's even worse than being in the bottom 2! Jordin loves cows.

It's like saying whoever made it to 12th place was never in the bottom, except for elimination day!

The semantics don't really matter here. You cannot be eliminated and not be in the bottom 2 or 3. At some point, logic has to come into the equation. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 09:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Label

Please stop adding her record label if you are not sure...when we have appropriate sources, then we can add it...thanks all! Jgcarter 14:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

I'd argue that she is a pop singer. If people want to include pop and R&B, I would have no objections. But just R&B? Come on folks. :) --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 17:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Album Details

Jordin has not announced her release date, or album title, so I removed it from the article. You can't put things on Wikipedia based on rumors. 24.91.189.35 21:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Stop putting in fake Album titles, please. I have to check every day and erase it.Gtompkins48 14:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I actually just added a comment to the article to that fact. We also have false articles being created with false titles. *sigh* --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 14:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Who keeps changing it to "Tommorrow Comes Fast"? An article last week clearly stated that she did not have a name for it. No one knows the name, stop making fake names.24.91.189.35 15:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please

Stop adding links to jordinclub.com. It's one of many many many MANY fan sites out there. We generally don't include fan sites just for that reason. We can't endorse one over another. And besides that, this one has music which might be legal and might not be. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 15:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

What about her single with Chris Brown "No Air"? Isn't that going on the Album? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.65.192.1 (talk) 20:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official Title

Amazon.com has officially stated that Jordin's album will be titled "Mademoiselle", I referenced it on the page. So now we know the title and all the false titles can end. Gtompkins48 23:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Not so fast. I think we need more than just amazon.com. One site can easily be wrong. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 23:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I Who Have Nothing

People keep referring to her rendition of "I (Who Have Nothing)" as a Shirley Bassey/Tom Jones original. The song is originally by Ben E. King; both the former artists made renditions of King's original. Leftnwrite08 (talk) 07:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heritage

Is she a Eurasian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.189.46 (talk) 03:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC) No her father is African-American and her mother is White(American).

[edit] National Anthem

Don't see anything yet about her performing the National Anthem prior to yesterday's game. I'd add that; but I'm not sure where to put it. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 14:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Weight Controversy

Wow, the fattie-haters can't keep their little fingers out of anything, can they? Yeah, I'm not passing myself off as a particularly person you should care to listen to now, what with bad grammar and all, and a bland assumption that my retarded speaking is going to impress someone, but I think it's out of style now. Here I am reading an article about someone whom I've already forgotten about, and smack in the middle of it is a "controversy" which involves someone I've never heard of calling someone else fat. Until whomever is shown to have heart deseise, diabeties and high cholesterol, let's not pretend like we can tell a person's health just by looking at them, then use that as an excuse for being an fattie hater. I mean, I hate fat people too, but I don't pretend like my hate is saving the children or anything, I just hate them because they're ugly. ...and now that I've stated that whomever this article is about is ugly, someone be sure to quote me in a Wikipedia article somewhere as if anyone cares what I say, or more importantly, as if what I think of this person is somehow interesting to other people who want to learn about this person. ...and while I'm at it, let me say that Jimbo Whales is stupid so that someone can quote me in his article as well, placing it in a section titled "stupid controversy." I mean, his stupidity really is hurting the children an dall. I look at him and see autism. ...and down syndrome. Think of the children! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.110.27 (talk) 09:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Weight Controversy: SO WHAT? This paragraph belongs in an article about MeMe Roth, not Jordin Sparks. Just because someone somewhere is quoted in an article as having said something about someone else does not make that quote important enough to include in an encyclopedic article about that someone else. It appears POV. It adds no value whatsoever to Jordin's personal achievements or struggles. If she were an outspoken advocate for (or against) weight related health issues, and MeMe Roth were a somebody in the weight related health circles, then maybe this section would be worthwhile. But since MeMe Roth doesn't even have a wiki page about her or her group, and has no newsworthy hits in a Google news search, she has no relevance in my eyes. Boo to this section.—A2Z (talk) 20:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotect

I have unprotected this page as it has been protected for over six months. Protection should not be used as a pre-emptive measure. If heavy vandalism begins again, please request for re-protection on my talk page or at WP:RFPP.↔NMajdan•talk 21:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong birth year??

I thought before when I looked at her profile on IMDB it said 1987, maybe I'm wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punkymonkey987 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

i am doing a project with jordin sparks and i am going to ace —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.20.177 (talk) 16:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced sales figures

An on-going sock puppet case involves the continual addition of unsourced sales figures. (Often, the number is changed while the source for an old figure is left in place.) Any unsourced sales numbers and/or certifications will be reverted on sight. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

To repeat: Any unsourced sales numbers and/or certifications will be reverted on sight. If you have a new sales figure, do not add it unless you cite a reliable source. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Christian pop?

Does anyone agree that she is a Christian pop artist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.136.222 (talk) 01:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

If nobody speaks up I'm just adding the Genre without consulting anyone. And just so someone has a reason to speak I'll explane to you that all of her songs I've hears have Christian content in the lyrics so that's why we should add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.136.222 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 16 May 2008

[edit] Vocal Cord Injury

I've noticed that the article doens't really mention her vocal cord injury. Does this mean that she had surgery and is doing fine now? That should be mentioned in the article. 24.151.137.19 (talk)` —Preceding comment was added at 19:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)