User talk:Jonathan Logan

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[edit] Fishing history

Hi Jonathan. With regard to your additions to Template:Fishing history, I removed Neil McLean because his brother, Allan, is already on the list and the article on Neil adds nothing new (there is also little of substance or interest to fishing history in the article on Allan, and it should probably be removed as well). I also removed Chicken of the Sea since it appears to be an ordinary marketing operation of little historic interest to fishing. --Geronimo20 (talk) 01:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Politicians

Just so you know, there's actually a separate {{Infobox Officeholder}} that we should use for politicians instead of just {{infobox person}}. Bearcat (talk) 20:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] note

My reply is on my talk page re: Charles de Biencourt de Saint-Just. --Stormbay (talk) 02:10, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red Party

Maybe we can translate the titles in parentheses?

There is a small section on Non-English sources in the Verifiablity policy, but it does not say anything beyond what we might call basic common sense.

I guess the best I can do is start to add footnotes, where I will provide translations.

It should be easier to find English-language sources for Province of Canada, because the subject is not specific to Quebec. I'll start looking.

It is a strange coincidence that you posted your request for sources, because I last week I contacted Library and Archives Canada to let them know that there was a mistake on this public site:

The mistake was (and still is as of now) that when you try to download the Manifeste du Club national démocratique (Club national démocratique = Parti rouge) you end up with Étude sur l'union projetée des provinces britanniques de l'Amérique du Nord, by Joseph Cauchon instead! The civil servant who replied me (within 72 hours, not too bad :-) said they were going to re-digitize it within "a few weeks".

According to Yvan Lamonde, "Parti rouge" and "les rouges", are labels stuck on them by their political adversaries to compare them to the Italian Redshirts. Other than comparable ideologies, the analogy could very well come from the Italian flag which really is the same as the one used by the Lower Canada Patriots, only with the stripes vertical instead of horizontal. -- Mathieugp (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The Verifiability policy's section on Non-English sources makes it clear that:
"editors should use English-language sources in preference to sources in other languages, assuming the availability of an English-language source of equal quality, so that readers can easily verify that the source material has been used correctly. Where editors use non-English sources, they should ensure that readers can verify for themselves the content of the original material and the reliability of its author/publisher."
"Where editors use a non-English source to support material that others might challenge, or translate any direct quote, they need to quote the relevant portion of the original text in a footnote or in the article, so readers can check that it agrees with the article content. Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations made by Wikipedia editors."
Presently, there are quite a good number of Quebec-related articles that fail "to quote the relevant portion of the original text in a footnote or in the article", the main reason probably being that published translations are unavailable. As for editors providing the translations themselves, well, while a lot of people can read French, they do not have the necessary skills to translate from French to English. The fact that it is time consuming and requires considerable intellectual effort surely does not help.
Basically, it is best to find English sources if they exist. French sources should be substituted for English ones if possible, if not then they should come with a relevant translation for verifiability by the greater number.
All that being said, it seems to me that a French source on a Quebec subject, while not readily verifiable by most Wikipedia editors is readily verifiable by a lot of French-English bilinguals in Canada (or elsewhere) and is not as bad as would for example be a source in Swedish or Mayan. ;-) -- Mathieugp (talk) 19:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Joseph Z. Daigle

Since both entries in your disambiguation page led to an article about the same person, I've combined the functions into a redirect page that should accomplish the same function. This is the way to go when faced with two reasonable spellings under which a Wikipedia user would be searching for information about the same person. The disambig page was the right idea, it's just that redirect is more commonly used. If I can be of any further help, just leave me a note. Accounting4Taste:talk 15:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Re John McAdam (politician) and McAdam -- good question. The way you've arranged it, you can get to the politician if you start from the businessman, but it takes two steps, and I confess I'm not delighted with that. Unfortunately I cannot find a way to alter the italicized paragraph at the beginning of the businessman's entry to take you directly to the politician; you have to go through the disambig page first. This is the best I have to offer at the moment, unless you'd like me to consult someone more experienced about exactly what should be done and get back to you. (I don't quite know who that would be at the moment, but I have resources available.) Accounting4Taste:talk 19:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of communities in New Brunswick

Hello Jonathan! I'm Red Castle from the french wikipedia. My message is not directed only at you but I saw you are interested in Acadia. Me (and other people) have upgraded the list on our wiki and it now contains every municipalities and LSD in province. There are only some minor problems remaining, so if you or some other people interested in New Brunswick, it could be a good base to make yours better. Just take care of the fact that some places have officiel or unofficial french names, so we used them in those particular case. Have a nice day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.189.237 (talk) 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP PEI invitation

WikiProject Prince Edward Island is a new wikiproject which is a collaboration area and open group of editors dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of Prince Edward Island. As you have shown an interest in Lestock P. W. DesBrisay we thought we would extend an invitation to you to join our wikiproject! Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 02:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mather Byles DesBrisay

Re Mather Byles DesBrisay, one of the external links was changed to a reference citation using the wiki style of referencing...Wikipedia:Citation templates. Could more be added to the article to support Wikipedia:Notability. SriMesh | talk 02:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

When stating facts within an article it is best to use citations or references which enumerate the references and cite them in the style of for instance those at Wikipedia:Citation templates which generates footnotes. If doing this, then external links are not needed. The manner in which the original two WWW urls were listed was done in the wikipedia style of an external link. I modified Geneology of Mather Byles DesBrisay to be in citation or reference style. There should be about 2 inline citations per paragraph as a general rule of thumb, or for every new fact introduced to prove verifiability SriMesh | talk 18:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Thought I would leave the other change for you, as I would need to read the articles to find out what facts you were sourcing out. I read the articles, and changed both now to the inline reference format. SriMesh | talk 18:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Added an infobox template. For more about biographies see BiographySriMesh | talk 18:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)