User talk:Jona Lendering

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[edit] Amsterdam

Dear Reisio I see you reverted the translation I changed of the legend of the Amsterdam coat of arms; I do not fully understand why, because the translation that was there, is not the official version that is used by the Amsterdam Municipality; I have asked it over there (cf. this webpage. Cordially Jona

My revert had more to do with the manner of your alteration than the translation you provided. If you look carefully, you will see that the existing format was Motto in Nederlands (Motto in English) — you changed this to Slightly altered motto in English (Motto in English). If you'd merely changed Merciful to Compassionate, I would have left it alone. Sorry for the slow response. ¦ Reisio 19:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyrus The Great

Your modification to the Cyrus the Great article, in particular, removing a valid reference is against Wikipedia rules and constitutes vandalism. If you feel that you have valid reasons, please provide references/proof in the discussions page. Mehrshad123 01:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another warning..Please stop Vandalizing Cyrus article.

'Great King' is where the suffix "the great" comes from it is only a question of linguistic differences. If you don't understand that, then you must have Downs Syndrome.

Another case of vandalizm to report against this user. Can a moderator please block this user from editing?

Jona, I insist that you do not know what you are talking about and your comments are crazy and outrageous. What do "Iranian Refugees" as you put it have to do with the Cyrus Cylinder? I think you have other issues that need to be dealt with, but not here. - I will give you a chance to state why this translation (which is available in every history text on the Achaemenid Dynasty and Cyrus the Great) is incorrect. By the way the translation you have provided is only a fragment of the full text and it was part of a school exercise! Please do some research before making anymore changes.Mehrshad123 22:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Read your own user talk for reply.Jona Lendering 23:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyrus the Great family tree and article

Hey, Jona. Great work on the Cyrus the Great article recently. I'm glad you turned the Cyrus Cylinder section into something acceptable, I thought that would never happen.

I was hoping you could help me with something. A few months ago, I did a short family tree of the Achaemenid rulers. I came across it today, and decided to move it to its own template (Template:Cyrus-tree and the longer version, Template:Achaemenid-tree) and add it to Cyrus the Great, per the article's last featured article candidacy. Could you look it over and let me know if there's anything wrong with it? Or you could even edit it yourself.

One last thing; we currently have three dates for Cyrus' death in the article. In the introduction paragraph, it says July 529 BC. In the military commander box, it says Autumn 530 BC. And finally, in the "Death" section, it puts it as December 530 BCE. Could you go through and add in the correct date? I personally could not come to an appropriate conclusion regarding this matter, due to the various sources providing different information.

Thanks! ♠ SG →Talk 02:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree about the cylinder. Though, the short paragraph that you have written about Pahlavi and such should suffice in the Cyrus article, as it does briefly explain the situation. We could, however, go into more details in the Cyrus cylinder article about the misuse/mistranslation of the cylinder text. ♠ SG →Talk 18:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jona, yes the link works here and also on a friends so there must a problem down your end somewhere. --Rayis 00:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Cyrus Cylinder

Hi Jona, about this article I would like to point out a few things:

1- You are conducting your original research and putting it on Wikipedia. Please see Wikipedia:No original research.

-Do it elsewhere.

2- You are claiming your point of view Please see WP:NPOV

-Accept other points of view.

3- You are claiming ownership of the article Please see Wikipedia:Ownership of articles

-Let others edit.


Thanks, --Rayis 17:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

"I am sorry, I am not. I have decently put online sources: U.N. letters, ancient cuneiform tablets. What else do you need?"
Original research I was referring to is "proposing theories and solutions, original ideas" (See WP:NOT), there is no source to claim that M. Reza Pahlavi was the first people in the world to claim that Cyrus Cylinder is a charter of human rights. Therefore, that section does not need to start and end by referring to this matter. This is your point of view, it is not a generally accepted idea.
"No, I am not, but as things stand, I am the only one capable of actually reading the text. I am also the only one at present who is quoting recent publications, instead of old texts, based on pre-Schaudig editions. I am not claiming any privilege, but if people bring forward pre-Schaudig information, I feel to remove it."
You may be an expert, but your point of view is one, in over 6 billion humans, and this is Wikipedia "not a place to publish your own thoughts and analyses or to publish new information not heretofore published." WP:NOT

--Rayis 17:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

If we both agree on this simple matter, then lets compromise on that the section should not evolve around him (Pahlavi). The second part was your conclusion from Mary Boyce's book, etc - I won't compromise on that. I have that book on Zoroastrianism and there is no way you can conclude from that book that Cyrus would not tolerate other religions! :) --Rayis 18:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, sure. I will post on the article's talk page from now. --Rayis 18:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: CAIS

I have received communication form CAIS, and the picture of Darius statue at Susa that you claim is yours, in fact was taken by Iran’s Archaeological Research Centre in 1972. Also, they are saying that you never contacted them regarding any images, and whatever images that they have copied from your website, the attributions were made, according to your copyright policy. However, Karl Ribbentrop asked me that you should check their website and if you see any images were taken from your website, and the appropriate attributions were not made, they either can delete them or acknowledge you as the source. Surena 22:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your Anti-Vandalism Efforts!

I see you've done a great job protecting such pages as Cyrus the Great against damage. Intentional, repeated damage is vandalism, and editors who perform repeated acts of vandalism can only be termed vandals. I hope you're able to join me in tracking the future edits of known, active Wikipedia vandals, and protecting other articles from him/her as well. Bete Noir 19:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture notes

Hi there. A querry. In the livius article 'after alexander' there is a photograph of 3 three flags. The caption (visible on my computer only when the cursor goes over it) reads, 'three flags: Europe, Greece, Macedonia'. As part of an ongoing research, I would be greatful in your interpretation of this title. For my personal details and you can email me following the wiki link on my user page. Thanks Politis 13:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)