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[edit] Your ingenuous response on the Ramallah checkpoint query

...on the Miscellaneous Reference Desk (3.12, June 4) was probably more than the OP bargained for, and makes good reading for the rest of us (and nicer than I'd have written myself). Keep up the good work! (Oh, and my "contribution" to your User page was to strip off the prank "new message" banner - that you can certainly revert if you liked it, but please be advised that at least one fellow WP editor, namely yours truly found it an irritating waste of precious/scarcest-nonrenewable-resource.) -- Cheers, Deborahjay 22:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Chutzpah

Jon, I'm assigning you a new project. Please see this page: Chutzpah. You need to rescue it, I had pain reading the stupidity here.

"The word derives from the Yiddish chutzpah (חוצפה). This, in turn, derived from the Hebrew word ḥuṣpâ (חֻצְפָּה)" Last I heard, Yiddish copies many words from Hebrew, like a 3rd of Yiddish is just pure Hebrew. There is no "Yiddish Chutzpah", it's the same thing. Chutzpah is a Hebrew word, this Yiddish stupidity needs to be removed. This showing of "shuruk" vs. "melupum" spelling of it in Hebrew is ridiculous too, Hebrew or Yiddish has no such requirements on which way it must be spelled. More stupidity follows with: "Related terms in Yiddish are khotsef (חצוף) and khatsufeh (חצופֿה)", again these are both Hebrew words, and are not of Yiddish origin. Please save this page. -Nach

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Hi Jon. Thewebthsp here. I initiated a proposal to change the title of "Jew" to "Jewish people." Changing the title to "Jews" would be ok too. English, Germans what have you are under "English people," "Germans". Jews should be under Jewish people or Jews in my opinion, and many ppl who discuss this issue on the talk page (18?) were offended by the current title. I'm following wiki policy to the letter about this.

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[edit] Who is a Jew?

See Who is a Jew? for the latest with Bus Stop, this time a rewrite of the intro. It may be worth considering protecting the page until a) he listens to what is being said, or b) he moves on. Crossposted to Jay. DanielC/T+ 14:37, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rabbi Zvi Block

Please see User:Rachack/Zvi Block/Links concerning Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zvi Block. --רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 06:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia

Actually, I'm act mainly on my domestic wikipedia (for few months) so I experienced the initial depression there ;-). Kriplozoik 22:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] 13 Principles

Re your revert on Orthodox Judaism: I'm not getting involved, but mandatory belief in the 13 middot is "only" according to the Rambam. There are those in the Orthodox world (e.g. Marc B. Shapiro among others) who point out that the Rambam's view was not unanimous among rishonim and contend that it was never canonized into Jewish tradition either. I don't personally agree with many of Shapiro's assessments, but it would be fairer (read: NPOV) to use more mitigating language here.--DLandTALK 17:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Facts

If they are indeed in that one source, it would be best to cite them as such. Otherwise, they come across as tall claims with no clear verification. Thanks, Kukini hablame aqui 08:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much! Happy editing! --Kukini hablame aqui 08:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Self-sacrifice under Jewish law

I’ve reverted your redirect. Please see the discussion page.

Bloger 19:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The wikipedia server is having trouble right now, so I’ll respond later
Bloger 20:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I’ve now redone it, what do you think?
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[edit] Pierbridge

In addition to it not having any context, it also is a non-notable company. Honestly, I could put G1 and it would fly, due to the fact that it meets so many criteria. Anyway, I appreciate your oversight-prevention. Thank you. Doesn't make that company notable. :P PumeleonT 15:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I apologize. In my zeal of RC patrol, I seem to have lost sight of "Don't bite the newbie" and "Assume good faith." It's just difficult to assume good faith when 25% of all articles are nonsense, local bands, personal autobiographies, or internet clan histories. I have not, and I will not revert Pierbridge for a while. I will, however put it on my watchlist. If it does not improve, I shall A7 it. Once again, you have my sincere apology. PumeleonT 15:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
  • On a side note, check the summary for the spelling correction you just did to my talk page. Irony at it's greatest. PumeleonT 15:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] ESPA College

Hi Jon513, MattDinnery here. I have added more content to the page, but just don't have the time to do it all in one go... Also, I'm not up to speed on the wiki editing system yet, I need to get to grips with it before I do anything!

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Thanks - Pheonix15 18:46, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I have a joke...

I have a joke, I fell for that practical joke; thank you... Lighthead þ 22:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Egg‎

The Egg article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee (Talk) 16:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Jon513...

At the Talk Page for Negiah I had have a question for you to answer or something, which is underneath the Siblings section of the Talk Page. So if you what, you can answer me there even thought anybody could Reply to that.-Jana

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[edit] Making of a Godol

Thank you for reminding me I also make mistakes. DGtal 09:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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Ok, I will rewrite it, most of the things you say are true (especially about the title) and I will follow the guidelines. The only thing I disagree is that the article says it's a good thing to have an ad-wrapped car, it is supposed that a person who reads it already has some interest on the subject. Keep in touch and thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gptdt (talkcontribs) 12:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Serious discussions about using the names Reform vs. Progressive Judaism

Hi Jon513: Please see the present discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/open tasks#WikiProject Judaism needs help - geographical bias concerns. Your input would be greatly appreciated. (They are the result of discussions that unfolded at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Concern about duplicating Reform and Progressive labels.) Thanks so much, IZAK 09:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks for the edit

I like the new wording Judaism's view of Jesus#Jesus'_life (how do you do links?). What group do you belong to? (i.e. Breslov, conservative, orthodox, lubavitch etc.)



Levine brings a package to the post office. the clerk says 'Its' too heavy, put more stamps on it.' Levine responds 'If I put more stamps that'll make it lighter?' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craobh sidhe (talkcontribs) 19:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for the help

Your right I cannot tell your religious affiliation by your articles. However you did say your Jewish so unless you meant your ethnically Jewish. I do understand if you would rather not talk about religion.

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[edit] From Yosef

I hate wiki-stuff and can't be bothered figuring out how to edit things properly. /Yosef

hey Yosef, When were you in Machon (can tell from your IP)? go to Wikipedia:Cheatsheet for help with wiki-markup. Jon513 18:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks

Hey Jon,

Thanks for the fix to the banner on my page. I flagrantly stole the thing from Jay's talk page, and hadn't checked whether it was rendering properly in anything but my default browser. Also, as per request, . . .

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[edit] Christain bias

Hi Jon. This page needs your attention: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_commentaries_on_the_Bible I find it overally Christian. I also have a check waiting for you at my house. -Nach —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.233.55 (talk) 15:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[sigh], This article was mostly cut and pasted from the Catholic Encyclopedia and needs to be completely rewritten. Do you want to rewrite it? (no? - neither do I.) (yes? Great go for it). I hope you can follow my "choose your own conversation" style of writing. Jon513 (talk) 17:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
That would explain why it's so terrible. I'd also expect such an article to list everything found in Mikraoth Gedoloth, and a couple really more popular commentaries than it does. I don't particularly want to rewrite it, but I can give a quick list of what I think needs to be listed:
  • Targum Onkelos
  • Targum Yerushalmi
  • Targum YB"U
  • Rashi
  • Alshich
  • Sifthei Chachamim
  • Rimzei HaBa'al Haturim
  • Perush HaTur Ha'aruch
  • Ramban
  • Ibn Ezra
  • Ralbag
  • Seforno
  • Radak
  • Methudath Dovid
  • Methudath Ziyon
  • Clei Yakar
  • Torah Temimah
  • Malbim
  • Ohr Hachayim
  • Abarbanel
  • Minchath Shai —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.233.55 (talk) 21:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

While there's a couple of others that should go on there, most of the other commentaries out there are collections, or a commentary on Rashi, not the Tanach directly. What I listed is also things you'd find in something like the Mikraoth Gedoloth or other similar works.

I'm all for choose your own style of writing. 89.138.233.55 (talk) 21:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Menorah

See talk page, the Menorah article should talk about both the 7 and 9 branched Menorahs Epson291 (talk) 00:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your response here: Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2007_December_16#NAFTA_and_Customs_duty_for_shopping_in_US.

I have made an article here: Canadian import duties. --Obsolete.fax (talk) 05:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Juliet seignious

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Juliet seignious, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Juliet seignious. Kannie | talk 17:51, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] AfD nomination of Domaine du Castel

I have nominated Domaine du Castel, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Domaine du Castel. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Harland1 (t/c) 10:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You are now an administrator

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[edit] Deletion

It's all explained by Daniel's reply to your note here. Thanks! — E talk 10:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Well done.

You showed good grace on user talk:E, I salute you. Guy (Help!) 11:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

And me too. It takes a real man to take on a long-standing preconception and own up to a mistake. Don't hesitate to seek me out if you need any help, although I have a feeling you will be more than fine on your own. east.718 at 01:56, January 2, 2008

[edit] Regarding Cory Adams

Hello, I apologize if re-adding the speedy tag to the article was inappropriate, but it seemed to me that this was a straightforward case. Although the article has been there a while, speedy delete doesn't refer to the article's age, and looking over the history, it seems that at no point did it every qualify as notable under the current criteria. CSD A7 says biographies have to establish notability, and the notability guideline for pornographic actors says they either have to 1) win awards 2) contribute significantly to their genre or 3) be featured in the mainstream media. Since the article doesn't establish notability in any of these ways, and has no mention that could even be construed as qualifying, it seems that it should be able to be deleted without much trouble. However, if there's something I've misunderstood about the policies and guidelines, I'd of course want to know TheBilly (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Advice on why you deleted my article?

Hi, you deleted an article I submitted on a known British model. I am totally new to wikipedia, so I have no idea why it was deleted? you stated, something to do with relevance? ok, so does this mean that the model in question is not important enough to be listed?

If that is the case, then what makes someone important? There are a few British models listed, one eg is kelly bell. So, can you please tell me what I did wrong in the article, and could it possible be retrieved and I will edit it accordingly (I spent 2 hours imputting all the links).

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Creativeenterprises (talk • contribs) 12:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)