Talk:Jonny Wilkinson

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Jonny Wilkinson was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: August 25, 2006

Contents 1 GAC 2 Jonny or Wilkinson? 3 Nationality 4 Refs and cleanup 5 Height

[edit] GAC

This article was graded on 7 criteria:

1. Well-written: Neutral
2. Factually accurate: Pass
3. Broad: Pass
4. Neutrally written: Neutral
5. Stable: Pass
6. Well-referenced: Fail
7. Images: Pass

unfortunately, the article fails. It is not well referenced, with 3 references at the very top, and 2 at the very bottom, and none for most of the article. There are instances of weasel words and phrases, knocking the neutrality rating to "Neutral", and many rugby terms and organizations are not defined or linked, leaving anyone without knowledge of rugby completely in the dark. The article can be cleaned up, however, and I recommend resubmitting it to GAC, posibly after a Peer Review. --PresN 18:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jonny or Wilkinson?

The article mixes up the two, as in "Jonny made the England squad" and "Wilkinson was selected at Fly-half".

Surely it should be one or the other.

I suggest Wilkinson except in a family context mentioning other Wilkinsons, i.e. his brother.

Unless anyone objects, I move to change. AJKGordon 21:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to ask to make changes like that. Encyclopaedic language should be used throughout any Wikipedia piece. This article is not some swooning schoolgirl's diary. In fact I already altered this in the past [1] and it has been changed back to "Jonny", presumably by someone with some sort of mental retardation. Now sorted. Badgerpatrol 21:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I know I didn't need to ask permission. Rather I needed to ask the correct encyclopaedic language. Glad you sorted it. Thanks. AJKGordon 18:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Always surnames, never familiar names in the main body, and always a formal, businesslike tone. Apologies if the above comment was somewhat abrupt. Badgerpatrol 18:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality

I just reversed an edit to the first line which changed 'English' to 'British'. I don't know why the change was made, but many other sportspeople from the UK have seen similar disputes over how to describe their nationality. There doesn't seem to be any actual policy on this subject, but I think it makes sense to call Wilkinson English: after all, he is, and he plays for the England national team. 'British', while accurate, is less specific and unnecessary, since English implies British in any case. I don't want to see an edit war over this (as there has been, for example, at Andy Murray (tennis)), so I'm trying to reach consensus here. Terraxos —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 21:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Refs and cleanup

I have added the two above templates. The first because the career section has very few cites. Secondly, all the existing footnotes are placed before the punctuation when they ought to be after it according to MoS. SGGH ^speak! 07:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Height

Reverted article as the height template set him as 7cm shorter than he actually is.Londo06 12:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)