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I propose the deletion of "prestigious" from the first line. See comment at Category talk: Traditional gentlemen's clubs. 45ossington 16:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


While going through a box of old papers I found a certificate that a distant uncle was a "resident member" of this club in 1936. Not being familiar with this club, I found the wiki article. Comparing article and certificate, I found two items of possible historical interest to this page

  • A paragraph describing dates of incorporation (apparently this club existed previously but perhaps was incorporated or re-incorporated under some new statute)... "A NON PROFIT CORPORATION INCORPORATED MARCH 4, 1935, UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, PURSUANT TO DIVISION FIRST, PART IV, TITLE XII, ARTICLE I OF THE CIVIL CODE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA."
  • On the back of the certificate, there is what looks to be part of the bylaws stating the requirements for residence. "RESIDENT MEMBERS. Article II. Section 3. Any Male citizen, 21 years of age or over, whose place of business or residence is within twenty-five (25) miles of the center of the City of Los Angeles, shall be eligible for Resident Membership." ... " The territorial limits for Resident Membership shall be included in the following described territory using the County Court House in the City of Los Angeles as a hub, and describing a circle whose radius shall be approximately twenty-five (25) miles, and being approximately described as follows: Commencing at a point on the coast midway between Point Los Angeles and Point duma, thence following the lines of a circle northeasterlly, and including among other settlements, Calabassas, Chatsworth Park, San Fernando, Glendora, Spadra, Covina and Lemon; such circle intersecting the coast line of the Pacific Ocean at a point southeast of Anaheim Landing, provided however, that the City of Long Beach shall be deemed non-resident territory." I don't know the historical reasons, but it's interesting that Long Beach was excluded.

I'm not sure if any of this might be of interest or helpful, but I know that items fixing dates and places can be helpful in constructing histories. If appropriate, I could scan the certificate, as I suppose it might be considered a "published" source, although I'm not sure how a paper found in an old box qualifies as a good source (but might be considered Original Research...) so for now it's on the talk page. Meadowvistan1984 17:05, 28 July 2007 (UTC)