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Added season 4 information about the character.

1 Schenectady
2 Archer IV
3 Memorable quotes
4 Fair use rationale for Image:Babel One (ENT episode).jpg
5 Fair use rationale for Image:The Xindi (ENT episode).jpg
6 Merge Porthos here
7 USS Archer NCC-44278
8 In-Universe
9 Image for Porthos
10 Space Pirate?

[edit] Schenectady

As is being discussed on the Memory Alpha, who ever keeps putting this city in the article please STOP. Mike Sussman, the writer of the episode and the display in "In a Mirror, Darkly Part II" put the original graphic used to make the screen on his website [1] and has said himself that they used Upstate New York, never giving a real city. - A.J. 22:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

That bio of Jon Archer on that last link you posted has different writing on it than the actual bio on-screen from the episode.

[edit] Archer IV

If Archer IV is named after him, then who is Archer I, II and III named after??????

Trek lore seems to name planets sequentially from the named star -- so, if the star's name is Bob, then the first planet is Bob I, the second Bob II, etc. So, the star is named after Archer, and the first planet is Archer I, then Archer II, etc. --EEMeltonIV 22:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Memorable quotes

I removed this section. "Quotes" is a bit vague -- certainly this isn't an exhaustive list of all her quotes. What're the criteria for inclusion? It looks like this might more aptly be called "Memorable" quotes or "WP:ILIKEIT quotes" -- but that's subjective/non-NPOV. "Notable" quotes would be more significant, but lacking a citation about what makes them memorable, that doesn't work either. Lastly, straight-up quotes should be over in Wikiquote. If someone wants to move them over there, by all means... --EEMeltonIV 11:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Babel One (ENT episode).jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The Xindi (ENT episode).jpg

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[edit] Merge Porthos here

The dog doesn't have any real-world significance. It would probably be more appropriate to put the dog, briefly, in this article. Thoughts? --EEMeltonIV 10:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I am a fan of Star Trek, and the show, and I for one don't believe his dog should get his own article. Keiko O'Brien for example, doesn't even have her own article, and she's a bit more important to the show than Porthos, hehe. I say merge the articles, but I don't even think that he needs his own section on the article, just a mention. Same goes for Spot and Data. Ejfetters 07:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe that Porthos should continue to have his own page. As the Porthos page points out, Porthos has a much stronger presence in the series than Spot (referenced above). An entire episode focused on Porthos, and he appeared on the show quite regularly. I'm not sure what "real-world significance" means in the first entry, but for many viewers, especially children, Porthos is a source of much amusement and curiosity and a stimulus for Web exploration and learning. In fact, Porthos' page is the one and only page we've ever visited among the Enterprise entries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfwrites (talk • contribs) 04:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Oppose, it is a notable fictional dog. No reason why it shouldn't have its own article. Also this article is loaded (contains a lot of material) which makes a merger improper. -- Cat ^chi? 16:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- hahahahahahahahaha. -- Ned Scott 06:55, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
  - Porthos (Star Trek) is up for deletion. -- Ned Scott 07:06, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

And re. this article being "loaded" -- it is loaded with plot summary more apt for Memory Alpha; this page, too, needs an overhaul/keel haul. --EEMeltonIV 11:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Support — A sentence or two here seems appropriate; a whole article on a non-notable fictional dog does not. --Jack Merridew 11:06, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USS Archer NCC-44278

I'm watching Nemesis right now, and I noticed that one of the starships in Star Fleet Battle Group Omega (group awaiting Enterprise at sector 1045) is USS Archer. Scene is about 70 minutes into the movie. Is there any information about this ship? Could she be named after Cpt.Johnatan Archer? Mchl 18:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In-Universe

I don't know how this can be written in anything other than an in-universe style. Surely we don't need a comment after each sentence reminding people that someone who lives in the 23rd century is a fictional character!

21:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image for Porthos

I feel that Image:Porthos-where no dog had gone before2.jpg is better than Image:Archer with Porthos.jpg as it shows the actor "acting" rather than posing therefore it better identifies the "character". -- Cat ^chi? 18:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The only reason I prefer the other image is because it is more of a close up. If you can find one that can entail both images that would be preferrable. Ejfetters 22:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- We can crop it a bit. The thing that bothers me a bit is that there were at least 3 different dogs acting the role. The one with the Ferengi may also be a good image. -- Cat ^chi? 00:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Space Pirate?

Should Archer be added to the category Space Pirates for his act of piracy in "Damages"? JCDenton2052 (talk) 22:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

In short, no. I explained in more detail on your talk page. Categories are there for the basic, most notable characteristics, not for every detail. A single episode makes up about 1% of the series. Furthermore, since there is no mention of that episode or "space pirates" in the article, adding the category would fail WP:V since users would not be able to verify the space pirate claim.-Andrew c ^[talk] 15:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)