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[edit] I Am Legend

Yes, why all the unnecessary byte adding? Alientraveller (talk) 20:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I corrected the false statement that 'I Am Omega' is the fourth film adaptation of the Richard Matheson novel. I rewrote the paragraph to point this out. I was not just trying to add an unecessary separation. Go back and read the actual changes that I made. JohnnieYoung (talk) 20:45, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I will take another look at it; I guess what we need is a citation which says one way or the other whether it is technically an adaptation (i.e. does it say in the credits, "Based on the novel..."). Back in a tic. Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 20:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
There's this, which is the first hit on a Google News search and says, "The Last Man on Earth (1964), starring Vincent Price, was the first film adaptation of the apocalyptic best seller. That, in turn, was followed by The Omega Man (1971) with Charlton Heston and, more recently, by I Am Omega (2007), a straight-to-video rip-off released just last month." Or there's this, which says, "Now the low-budget production house The Asylum, just in time for the new "Legend" adaptation, has released its own coattails-riding version". The relevant word there is "version." I think the problem here is, unlike something like Transmorphers, which shares with the recent Transformers film nothing but a similar-sounding title, this film does seem, on the surface at least, to loosely follow the plot of I Am Legend. That said, the Winston-Salem Journal, does call it a "completely unrelated movie". In summary then: dunno. The best information to hand at present is that it is a loose adaptation, but might not be. As I said before, more information may be necessary, like a pic of the DVD box to see if there's a credit to the book on the rear credits list. Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 21:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

No, 'I Am Omega' does not say based on the novel by Richard Matheson because it isn't based on the novel. 'I Am Omega' is a film produced by The Asylum who make knockoff films that are borderline copyright infringement of bigger budget movies. Some previous films by The Asylum include "Transmorphers", "Snakes on a Train", "The Da Vinci Treasure", etc. The false information that 'I Am Omega' is based on the Richard Matheson novel or the Will Smith movie is the exact thing I was trying to correct with my edit. And you can't say loosely based on the novel either. The Richard Matheson novel is a copyrighted work and The Asylum has no rights to make a version of it and if they stated that their movie was based on the novel they would be sued out of existance. JohnnieYoung (talk) 21:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The silliest part of all this is not that my edit was disputed for its accuracy but that no one actually even read what changes I had made to the entry and just undid my edit because they thought I had made an unnecessary paragraph separation. JohnnieYoung (talk) 21:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I was overly hasty; please accept my apologies. I believe what you say about the status of I Am Omega. As I say, though, we have citations referring to it as an adaptation outnumbering the ones refusing to do so. WP:V says we include it. I'm genuinely unsure as to the next step; perhaps ignore all rules or take it to the film's talk page? Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 21:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

No hard feelings. I would just appreciate it if someone would reinstate my edit. In addition to my above comments, I present the following facts -- at the official site for the 'I Am Omega' film, they show "Written by: GEOFF MEED" with no Based On A Novel By Credit [1]; at the IMDB page for 'I Am Omega', they show "Writer: Geoff Meed" with no Based On A Novel By Credit [2]; also at the IMDB page for 'I Am Omega', you can see that the main character's name is Renchard not Robert Neville as it is in the novel and the Will Smith movie. JohnnieYoung (talk) 22:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, here is an article from The New York Times about the low-budget film company The Asylum that produced 'I Am Omega' and in a quote from the owner of the company it points out that all of their movies are original stories [3] JohnnieYoung (talk) 22:22, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on I Am Legend (film). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you serious? An edit war? This is crazy. Someone else has been posting false information which I am attempting to correct and you revert the content back to the false information and send me a warning? I have factually proved everything I have stated in the Talk section already. If you would read the changes that I made and follow this Talk thread I think you would certainly reinstate my edit and send me an apology. JohnnieYoung (talk) 23:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

He was informing you of the three-revert rule, which states that even if you're right, you may not make more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 23:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that you bring up your points at Talk:I Am Legend (film) instead of using the user talk page. It's clearly not blatantly false information -- there are contradictory reports, and the situation needs to be laid out more clearly. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the current information on the 'I Am Legend (film)' page with regard to 'I Am Omega' is blatantly false information. You can say there are contradictory reports but there aren't. There may be confusion by misinformed people but the facts are the facts. 'I Am Omega' is not an adaptation of the Richard Matheson novel in any way, shape or form. 'I Am Omega' does not say based on the novel by Richard Matheson in its film credits anywhere. The owner of the film company The Asylum who made the movie 'I Am Omega' also does not claim that it is based on the Matheson novel. 'I Am Omega' is a film produced by The Asylum who make knockoff films that are borderline copyright infringement of bigger budget movies. Some previous films by The Asylum include "Transmorphers", "Snakes on a Train", "The Da Vinci Treasure", etc. Additionally, here is an article from The New York Times where the owner of The Asylum says that all of their movies are original stories [4] But the craziest thing of all is that the two people who removed my edit weren't disputing it for its accuracy but they hadn't even read what changes I had made to the entry and just undid my edit because they thought I had made an unnecessary paragraph separation. They have since apologized for their mistake and so I reverted it back and now you have changed it back again to the false information. I have worked in the Hollywood film industry for over fifteen years now and I am very qualified to write about this subject. I would hope that going forward anyone who wants to edit an article on Wikipedia would be very familiar with the topic they are editing and have a better eye for detail when it comes to editing or deleting people's changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnieYoung (talk • contribs) 19:50, December 17, 2007

Qualifications do not apply for an editor -- see Essjay controversy. We need to deal independently with reliable sources since no matter how much you know or I know, others can't verify that implicit knowledge. We need to cite the information. I've laid out reliable sources that I could find regarding the I Am Omega situation and offered an approach based on the available information. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 02:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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