User talk:Johndburger

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[edit] ComputerWorld copy+pasting Pāṇini

Hello. Thanks for the heads-up. I have replied to your comment on Talk:Pāṇini. --ΜιĿːtalk 15:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tawkerbot2 doesn't like me! :)

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[edit] Tawkerbot2

Well, you were on a grey list for 10 min but that auto expired a while ago, no worries, you're not blacklisted now :o -- Tawker 17:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ego

Good move. Maybe we could try to write something on it, in relation to consciousness (I'm thinking about Nietzsche's critiques on it, that's why I was redirected to that page; see Übermensch). Else, ego does belong to the 3 words; see [[1]], although I don't know if it's really important! Cheers, Lapaz 11:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lonympics

Thanks, I reported it at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism and noted that this is a blocked user editing anonymously; I don't know if there's a better procedure. Catamorphism 15:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What about the dates?

Listen up, John... you may not like the way I set up the pages I go through on Wikipedia, nut it is my style... I don't think you should care if I add -st/-nd/-rd/-th to the dates that are already listed on the pages. Everybody has their own style... you have yours, I have mine...

This is a free country... we, the members of Wikimedia, can add almost anything to the pages. So, please... let me do what I do and everything will be peaceful...

Sonic Shadow 22:37, June 6th, 2006

[edit] Dates response PART II

Then I'll keep re-changing the dates over and over again... some rules I will follow, but others... I feel that I have to defy... to each their own, John...

Sonic Shadow a.k.a. D.L. Morgan 23:00, June 6th, 2006

[edit] Re: Soccer Spam

No problem, the quicker its cleaned up the better... I just happened to notice it first thats all. - Chris Lord of Haha 05:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bishop McDevitt

Hello, Mr. Burger. I have a friend that graduated from Bishop McDevitt, I'm surprised there's an article about it. Did you teach at the school? (This comment added by Timize · 2006-06-21 23:43:56)

No, but I went there a million years ago (1980s). When did your friend attend? I haven't added any real content to the article, I've just done a few little touchups. —johndburger 13:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
This guy must have been there 3 or 4 years ago, something like that. He mentioned that you're "rather curious" on this website, as far as the school is concerned. Your name is too close.(This comment added byTimize· 2006-07-08 17:42:32)

[edit] McD II

Are you sure you're not a teacher at McDevitt?  ::raises eyebrows::

[edit] Theresa Obermeyer

I don't know why you keep reverting the text on Ms. Obermeyer as that exactly describes what she is known for as a public figure as anyone who has ever lived in Alaska knows.Tom Cod 16:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Keep reverting? I only reverted it once—if multiple people revert your text, that might be a signal of some sort. —johndburger 12:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Good job with the article, I like the changes you have made. I have a question: "Judge jails Obermeyer for 30 days: Ex-school board member's probation revoked for courthouse altercations": Do you know where I can find the text for this article you added? Is it only in print or is there some resource online where I can read it? If it's only in print then thanks anyways. I see the article text in the talk page. A talk page isn't really a realiable source though :) I can't find any adn.com articles about her before 2001. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 13:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I think Tom bought the artice online, then cut and pasted it into the Talk page (which is legally problematic, of course). I'm assuming it's a reliable copy of the article, but a free, online reference would be much better. —johndburger 12:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buffalo Parse Tree

Nice parse tree for the Buffalo buffalo, Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo article. I noticed that it is possible to add three more buffalo to the end:

Buffalo buffalo, Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo, Buffalo buffalo buffalo.

Can you add a parse tree of this new version to the article or the talk page? Synesthetic 03:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Yah, see the Talk page. —johndburger 23:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New thing about the buffalo parse tree

I explained it on the buffaloetc talk page, but I'm fairly certain that what you have marked as a proper noun would actually be a proper adjective, provided I have it right and "Buffalo(capitalised) buffalo" means "New York bison." Please let me know if I've got it totally wrong, or if you want to fix it, or if you're busy and would rather I or someone else fix it. Cantras 05:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit: On the talk page, they have told me I'm wrong. Neeeevermind then. Cantras 20:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Theresa Obermeyer resume photo.jpg

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[edit] Antifeminism issues

I still contend that "anti-feminism" need not be defined as narrowly as you have—it can easily be understood to additionally mean "against the Feminist movement". —johndburger 04:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

John, I am willing to listen to any and all ideas you have here because I believe you are acting in good faith. I share some of your concerns but I am unwilling to open up a pandora's box for continued rape of the language by radical feminists. Do you have any prominent NPOV sources that use the term 'antifeminist' to describe today's antifeminists that I could look at to consider your points. One of the plusses and minuses of dictionaries is that they are slow to change which prevents blatant short-term rapes of the language but also sometimes limits definitions too. I will come back here from time to time to check in since I have no personal page. (drop in editor)128.111.95.147 03:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Great Gastby

How much did i miss? Thanks for letting me know bout the mistake too. → p00rleno (lvl 80) ←ROCKSCRS 22:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re Human language technology

Yep: I'm not convinced of the factual accuracy of the whole set of claims. It looks like an attempt over a number of articles to insert Bruce Wydner into a pivotal role in computing history. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Bruce Wydner. Gordonofcartoon 11:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Yah—he may or may not have been the first to use the term "human language technology", but the field existed long before that. I will be working on the HLT article bit by bit. —johndburger 00:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] heroes and roaches

I removed the section, and you would've been justified to do so. There was a long discussion on the talk page about it. Might be worth reviewing if you'd like to be able to cite it for later reversions. Anyways, nice edit and summary, they let me know what to look for. ThuranX 01:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Nice to get some encouragement on the summary—bad or missing summaries are one of my pet peeves. —johndburger 01:59, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Devoninspiration

Skimming their edits, they don't seem to be actually adding any spam links, just a lot of borderline-notable authors and books. I'd just add {{notability|books}} or {{notability|biographies}} to the tops of the pages to flag them as needing better sources, or prod them for deletion if they were looking particularly bad. (There's at least one unpublished book in there which would break the WP:CRYSTAL policy, and can be prodded immediately.) --McGeddon 09:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blazing the Trail comment at User talk:Easphi

Hi John! I too noticed the string of edits adding Blazing the Trail to the reference section of many articles. Thanks for writing the nicely-worded comment at User talk:Easphi. I did notice from http://astronautics.usc.edu/faculty-staff/gruntman.htm that the author of Blazing the Trail is chair of the astronautics department at USC, so the book is presumably scholarly enough for use as an encyclopedic reference. Specifically regarding your comment about Hale, using the Amazon 'search inside' feature shows the book does mention Hale in the context of The Brick Moon, an article I have worked on in the past. In fact, although in that article I used two different primary sources showing that Hale published Brick Moon as early as he did, I didn't have a secondary source that discussed this. So in that one case at least, a reference to Blazing the Trail actually helps the scholarliness of the article. Anyway, thanks again for starting the discussion so politely on the Easphi talk page: if anything can resolve the situation smoothly, that surely was a good start! (sdsds - talk) 05:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yah, I knew that the reference was not completely irrelevant to the Hale article, but, at first glance, I suspect many readers will be puzzled. There are other articles to which Easphi added this reference that I think are even less clear, e.g., Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald‎, Hyder Ali, and several others. These are all militarily related, so perhaps there is indeed a connection, and, indeed, both Cochrane and Ali are in the book's index—that's why I suggested that Easphi footnote the relevant chunks of article text. If the intent is not spammy, the user should have no reason not to so improve the scholarliness of the articles. —johndburger 14:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello John, I was asked to look into this issue, please see here for the results of administrator review of the situation, I took the issue to Alison to request her opinion. Should you feel the book is appropriate to use as a "Further reading" section, in certain articles, that's fine, but the website is now on the blacklist as a spam site. Please let me know if you notice the editor in question adding any additional links. Thanks for catching this John! Ariel♥Gold 05:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I had forgotten about this, glad it's been dealt with. Thanks to you admin-type folks for your efforts! —johndburger 14:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recursive

Yep, it's an oddity in Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser uses this throughout to refer to what normally would be called dependent/ descendent. Has something to do with the structure/hierarchy of the way the categories are handled. SkierRMH 21:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Please don't bite the newbies

This edit summary seems a bit bitey to me. The anonymous editor whose question you removed was probably unaware of the convention of adding new comments to the bottom of talk pages. Calling it "defacing" to add a comment to the top instead is quite an overstatement. –Henning Makholm 02:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not just that they added the comment to the top, they actually edited an earlier comment into their own—very odd. Still, you're right, I could have been gentler. What I should have done was just reinstate the old comment, and move the new one, which is what I've now done. —johndburger 02:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
In fact they did just add the comment to the top. But the part of the MediaWiki software that produces the diff view sometimes fails strangely then it tries to match old text to new. For the anon's edit, for some reason it choses to compare the old first paragraph against the new comment — and then shows the actually unchanged old first paragraph as an added one. But when it shows your revert it figures out fine what is actually happening. –Henning Makholm 11:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Oy! I see now—boy, I misread the situation entirely. Thanks for catching this, so I could (partially) right my wrong. Amazing to think I'm still learning these little idiosyncrasies after several years of editing. Thanks again! —johndburger 16:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reading skills acquisition

Good catch. Thanks for touching base with me. I have that page on my watchlist and would have caught it. I will continue to monitor that page and some others. I am glad you investigated this further.

I also love the Buffalo buffalo sentence. Kearnsdm (talk) 05:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unknown subject

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