User talk:John Carter/Archive Nov 2007

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[edit] Recruitment project

John,

The recruitment project seemed to be a quick hype, but now it is hard to keep the intitial participants. I am wondering wether the Food and drink WikiProject would be a good project to start with, if we are the only ones doing some work for it. If you are willing to put some time in it, than i will focus my effort on this project, otherwise i will try some plans for myself. I am thinking about restarting WikiProject intellectual debate and try to recruit disgruntled experts from the expert retention article. from there, i don't know how things will evolve yet. It depends on whom i am able to recruit and what ideas they will have. But, lets focus on the WikiProject Food and drink first, if you have time for it.--Daanschr 21:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ebionites

an arbitration case takes months, you need patience there. In the meantime, it's Wikipedia:Dispute resolution as usual. Tag the insufficient references with {{page number}}, and, if unaddressed, remove the disputed passages. If Michael reverts that, he'll likely run into WP:3RR, or the article will be temporarily locked down for edit-warring. It will take time and effort, but these things usually sort themselves out just as long as one party is interested in setting the record straight according to Wikipedia policy. I can put the article on my watchlist if you like, but I'll need some time to get an understanding of the issues involved. dab (��) 17:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Please see my reply re "jackals" on my talk page. Thanks. Ovadyah 22:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alex Stubb

[1] Since when was Alexander Stubb a leader of a micronation? - J Logan t: 20:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, doesn't suprise me. Can't find anything in English though, can you read Finnish? Just hoping for a source so a note can be added to his article on that. - J Logan t: 21:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your great work

Thanks for your recent efforts re micronation articles. If there was a WP micronation barnstar, I'd award it to you. --Gene_poole 00:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2 religious subjects are in jeopardy of being deleted

I see in your user page that u take great interest in Jewish and Christion related subjects, perhaps you can enlighten us in these 2 issues Jericho massacre and Cherem (genocide). Please note that this is in no way a request for a vote one way or the other please refrain from the discussion page, or do indeed vote the other way from me. Thanks--יודל 00:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with theological interpretation?

Hi. I found your name on Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion, and you're still active, so I hope you can help me. I am writing an article about the Mythology of Carnivàle, a semi-religious TV show. The first season started with a monologue, "Before the beginning, after the great war between heaven and hell, God created the Earth and gave dominion over it to the crafty ape he called man... and to each generation was born a Creature of Light and a Creature of Darkness... and great armies clashed by night in the ancient war between good and evil [...]". Unfortunately, I am not well-versed when it comes to Christian religion and interpretation, and I don't know if "great war between heaven and hell" and "the ancient war between good and evil" refer to some specific biblical event. I'd like to link those phrase somewhere, but I'd rather not resort to Original Research if someone more knowledgable than me says it's not obvious. Help in any form is appreciated. :-) – sgeureka t•c 11:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Most sincere thanks

John Carter, thank-you very much for awarding me with my first ever barnstar! Very much appreciated. It is now proudly displayed on my user page. Thanks also to your for all your work on the many religion wikiprojects, and in particular for helping on the one I have put most work into, WP:SDA. For an alien you seem to have a good working knowledge of the affairs of planet Earth... Cheers, Colin MacLaurin 14:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John

Don't worry, I don't drop out of a fight. I have strong Irish origins. I didn't know any other way of alerting whoever is looking on to the seriousness of the appalling damage Michael C Price is doing, not only to that page, but to people like yourselves, who have worked so tirelessly and creatively for the public that reads Wikipedia. Finest regards.Nishidani 20:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wake Island is a micronation?

RE: [2] and [3]. I don't think so. --Henry W. Schmitt 22:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

The category and banner were added based on the fact that the Kingdom of Enenkio claims it. That "state" is counted as a Micronation, and its claim on Wake Island and that territory takes up a significant portion of that article. Also, for what little it's worth, the Micronations project, which is admittedly small, also doesn't have that many articles do work with, so the chances of its improving the article in an NPOV way are probably better than those of the other projects that work with the article. I myself am not extraordinarily active with the project right now, but on the conclusion of my own current activities I'm going to be working with that project as much as any other whose userboxes I have greedily acquired for myself, and Wake Island is an important article. Feel free to remove the tags, but the Micronations project's interest in the article will almost certainly do the article more good than harm. John Carter 22:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I just did some external research on Enenkio and I'm not sure it would fall under the Micronation category. I think of Micronations as fresh ideas trying to claim sovereignty over occupied or owned land. I think Enenkio would be in a different class, one relating to "White man took my lands I want them back now". I'm pretty sure Wake was claimed under the Guano Islands Act, which allowed US citizens to claim islands as long as they were uninhabited and unclaimed. Many of the islands claimed had previously been visited by Micronesians/Polynesians, but were abandoned after resources were exhausted. One resource left that was not of use to the Micronesians: guano. I'm guessing that when Americans landed on Wake it was like other isolated barren Pacific islands, uninhabited. These are just my thoughts and I am sure the people of Enenkio have good reason for their claims. In short I don't think Enenkio is a Micronation but simply one nation protesting another's occupation of the formers land. --Henry W. Schmitt 03:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok I'm going to go ahead and remove your tags. -Henry W. Schmitt 20:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Star

Thanks very much - that is a nice looking one. I should update my user page to show off my nice things ;) (Emperor 15:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Basilica of Our Lady of Good Health

Thanks for the views. To be honest untill you pointed out I didnt realise that adding the architecture would be a good idea (heeks!!). Thanks once again for the DYK nomination. Cheers ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε †αLҝ 20:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi John! Can you have a look at this article and give your comments please. Thanks ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε †αLҝ 09:20, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anglican collaboration of the month

The current Anglicanism Collaboration of the Month is
Essays and Reviews
The next collaboration will be selected on 30 April 2008. (Vote here)

Wassupwestcoast 02:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nevada

There is a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nevada. -- Jreferee t/c 14:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RFA

Ever considered it? Carbon Monoxide 17:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I think I fall short of a few of the requirements, like, well, apparent sanity (I do claim to be a Martian remember), probably have a bit too quick of a temper at times (unfortunately honestly, in this case), and at least right now am probably a bit pressed for time, what with trying to update the Project Directory. Unfortunately, you are now at least the fourth person who has suggested it to me. so I guess I should give it a bit more consideration than I have to date. I might place myself for Editor Review in a while and see what kind of responses I get there. John Carter 17:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No prob

No problem; I think of Yomangani as somewhat modest, and I don't think he'd want it to appear that he added that statement himself. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:13, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Historical Information

Hail, O Warlord. What shall we do about WP:HISTINFO?

I am about to try adding the "lacks historical information" to Template:Articleissues. Maybe this will raise the visibility of the project's concern. Flagging "insufficient context" seems to be to often be a substitute for the more specific "lacks historical information."

What else can we do? -- Rob C. alias Alarob 15:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Great idea (transcluded sub-pages for historical projects). As you probably know, the template does currently add flagged articles to the category "Articles lacking historical information." I don't know enough wiki markup to do what you're suggesting, but would like to try to make it happen. (On the Articleissues edition, I'm cribbing other template code and testing it out at Template:X1 before making changes live.) Can you suggest a Wikipedian coder? -- Rob C. alias Alarob 15:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
OK. I'll call on you if I get stuck. I've taken a suggestion from the talk page and am seeking to reduce the prominence of the template (dropping the puzzle piece icon) and using {{unreferenced}} as a model. This should ensure compatibility with Template:Articleissues. I'm about to test it.
(My most ambitious past effort has been with Template:AntiVandal.) -- Rob C. alias Alarob 16:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
The deed is done. The template is revised and a "histinfo" parameter is added to Template:Articleissues -- although the latter is not date-sensitive. I have used the Articleissues template at Islam in the United States (a very troubled article in general). -- Rob C. alias Alarob 16:59, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5

The Biography WikiProject Newsletter
Volume IV, no. 4 - September 2007
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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XIX (September 2007)

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ebionites

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ebionites. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ebionites/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ebionites/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Newyorkbrad 15:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I have replied on my talkpage. I think that dispute resolution is making good progress, and it seems a bit superfluous to embark on an arbitration case at this point. Note that if consensus among editors is that a given paragraph is insufficiently referenced, it may just be removed, even if a single editor disagrees. A compromise can then be carved out on talk before touching the live article. --dab (��) 14:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

John, I think we should still move forward with arbitration. We are making better progress because the impending arbitration puts constraints on what Michael can do. Without the prospect of arbitration, all of our hard work would just be reverted back to Michael's version. I noticed Loremaster is very quiet these days. Do we want me to go first with an opening statement? Ovadyah 19:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. Ovadyah 19:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the disputed Eisenman & Tabor material to the talk page as we agreed. Please be on the lookout for reverts. Ovadyah 22:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tweety21

I think you should see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tweety21&diff=156793064&oldid=156754292 was having "sock puppet" temp-plates repeatedly put on account, even after checkuser proved this was false. I also had my contributions deleted off of my talk page by user Precious Roy see the community board for the hyper links. I am not sure why Roy has been doing this for the past month or so, I edited Wikipedia for 2 years and never had problems like this.

In conclusion I think I made many useful contributions to Wikipedia: Bryten Goss, I actually got an email of thanks from his mother who was very happy about his being put in Wikipedia. Shalon Goss, Domino Kirke and edited many others. It has just been so frustrating to be treated so rudely by Roy! Maybe I have made some editing errors but I don't need to be abused about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.208.99 (talk • contribs) (This is blocked vandal, Tweety21 (talk · contribs))

Note that despite Tweety21's claims, the checkuser did not prove that she has not used sockpuppets. The checkuser was declined. And we know for a fact that she has used sockpuppet accounts to get around her block or to otherwise violate WP:SOCK. --Yamla 16:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP Academy Awards

Hey John, I noticed that you've been doing a bit of editing on behalf of this project as of late, and I was wondering if this was a larger one-time organizational thing (ie WP Council work) or if you have decided to get active with the project. The reason I ask is that I've been starting to reorganize WP Films considerably in the past few months, and it seems a natural candidate for being brought into WP Films as a task force. Just wondering your thoughts on the matter, since the project seems somewhat moribund lately outside of your recent contributions. Many thanks! Girolamo Savonarola 19:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I probably should have clarified that we're expanding the scope of the project to all topics pertaining to film. This has also allowed us to integrate WP Filmmaking as a task force, as well as creating one solely for film festivals. While people related to the film industry will fall primarily under the Actors and Filmmakers workgroup of WP Bio, any individual also associated with particular subsets which have a task force, such as several national cinemas, will also be able to be tagged by Films. In essence, we're consolidating our scope along similar principles to WP MilHist, which I've been using as a model project for the purposes of strengthening the organizational structure of WP Films. Girolamo Savonarola 20:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Agriculture

Hey John, glad to see you signed up for WikiProject Agriculture, glad to have you on board. We're already getting some discussion on the provisional talk page User_talk:Doug/WikiProject_Agriculture. I wasn't sure I wanted to encourage this, but I went live with the template while the Project is still on my user page. In this case that was probably a good idea, since there are a lot of editors and the template is just a net to bring them in. I know I'm saying "userfy" a lot but I don't think I would want some of the projects you're finding to do that or we'd have a lot of junk talkpage banners out there. I know you'll be out there editing somewhere, but join us in our growth pains if you get the chance. Your insight might help us keep from making mistakes we'd regret. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 04:37, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Oh yeah, and if you have any particular interests could you add yourself to the list of users on the Project page (not just the proposals page)? If not, I'll just copy and paste your name from one list to the other. Whichever. Thanks. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 04:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi John, I saw you signed up with us on Wikiproject Agriculture so this is to say hello and welcome. Tom 22:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Hey John! Noticed that your nomination for DYK on Basilica of Our Lady of Good Health has made it to the main page. Thanks for your efforts. Cheers ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε †αLҝ 05:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apprentice editor?!

Hello. I just wanted to have a look at your page, and... Well, let's just say that I saw your service award. With an edit record as impressive as yours, you will agree with me that this looks a little strange. Fine, very strange. I wonder if there isn't a particular reason for this—pretentious humility, perhaps. I was curious enough to ask. Waltham, The Duke of 09:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it's included where it is because it seems the least "opinionated" of them all, and, frankly, even with all the awards, some of which I personally think may not have been as well earned as others, it helps me at least try to maintain some perspective. I do occasionally have a tendency to think more of my own opinions than is necessarily required, and in the event that there are any other editors out there who are struck by the dissonance of that ribbon placed with the others, it should help indicate to them that I'm not as impressive a person as the other awards might seem to indicate. I still make mistakes, sometimes big ones, and by placing it where I did I'm hoping to indicate to anyone that sees them all that I probably still have a lot to learn. John Carter 13:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I see. It is indeed easy to create the wrong impression in Wikipedia, especially since barnstars are not exactly handed out by some impartial committee with a long expertise in the field. But your user page philosophy seems even more interesting to me when I contrast it to mine, given that my user page goes for the completely opposite effect (and if I had any awards, I should make them very visible). Visit the page and you will see what I mean. (I am planning a few changes, by the way, that will make it resemble a namespace article even more.)
By the way, welcome to SBS. I should like to tell you that we are glad to have you as a member, and that if you have any question you can ask it in my talk page. Now, one of the things where we need help is the votes. Without members, policy cannot be approved, and there are a lot of holes in the guidelines to plug. Thus, when you have some time, it will be much appreciated if you can comment on a few of them. The main concerns at the moment are the removal of the disambiguatory notices from the s-par headers, the colour scheme for the succession box headers in general, and the creation of a separate template for judiciary offices. Waltham, The Duke of 16:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK nom

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 10 October 2007, a fact from the article Basilica of Our Lady of Good Health, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--IvoShandor 16:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creation

Updated DYK query On 10 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article James the Brother of Jesus: The Key to Unlocking the Secrets of Early Christianity and the Dead Sea Scrolls, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--IvoShandor 16:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James the Just

I assume you meant the book above, right, I didn't see a creator credit on the page, someone must have overlooked it, if you could let me know real quick if that was the article you were referring to in the comment I would be happy to splatter said editor's talk page with a DYK banner. IvoShandor 16:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, I got meself one of thems there Triple Crowns just a few weeks back. :), though I had been qualified for awhile apparently, I just stumbled on it recently. Thanks though. IvoShandor 16:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Done. IvoShandor 16:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Azadari

Hi, Please write your idea about Merging Mätam, Azadari of Muharram and Majlis-e-Aza to Commemoration of Husayn ibn Ali(here) and Imambargah to Hussainia (here). Thanks--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 03:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

It looks like you liked my suggestion : ) - Though personally, I think you could lower the bar to 3 months. - jc37 21:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind three months myself. Unfortunately, I'm not sure many projects would get approved at all with that timeperiod. It would be a lot smaller, though. :) John Carter 21:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm just thinking that collaboration is typically in the "now". And 6 months is quite a bit longer than "now" for those with that perspective. How about 4 months, then? - jc37 21:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I've just asked that question on the Council talk page. It seems like a good idea to me. John Carter 21:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your accessibility WikiProject proposal

I've given a pointer to your proposal at Wikipedia talk:Accessibility which is where all the accessibility-related discussion goes on at the moment - though its scope is somewhat different to your proposed WikiProject. Graham87 02:52, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Acessability Proposal

You might consider making a temporary page as a subpage of your user page so that we have a talk page dedicated to that and can quit using a section of mine... :) Would also make following conversations easier because people can watch that page. Not that I don't like my user talk page being on like ten peoples' watchlist! If you'd like, we can make it a subpage of mine, I don't care. Just figured you'd like to do the honors since you're the proposer. L'Aquatique talktome 05:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indian states as WikiProjects

Sorry, I apparently was a bit too [WP:BB|bold]]. I still think it's a bad idea to do a "fill in the blanks" approach for potential WikiProjects - one could do this for every country in the world without a WikiProject, every science without a WikiProject, every major university without a WikiProject, every English county without a WikiProject, and so on, just to test out the level of interest, resulting in a page that would be horrendously long.

But I don't think it's worth arguing over, so I'll defer to your revert, even though it looks like the Indian states will clog up the page for four months before being archived. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

With thanks!   
Thanks for participating in my RfA, which closed successfuly.
I leave you with a picture of the real Blood Red Sandman!
Note his 'mop' is slightly deadlier than mine!
- - Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

You have been invited to join the WikiProject Rhodesia, a collaborative effort focused on improving Wikipedia's coverage of Rhodesia. If you'd like to join, just add your name to the member list. Thanks for reading!

[edit] Basilica of Our Lady of Good Health

Hi John, I have expanded the above article after receiving your comments. If you have time can you go through it and let me know what you think and what would your assessment be as of now. Cheers ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε †αLҝ 13:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coaches and executives

Regarding this edit, where it looks like you removed the "coaches" category as being redundant with the "executives" category, it seems that, at least in the context of major sports, head coaches are not considered "executives", whereas the subject of the article is in fact both a head coach and an executive. heqs ·:. 20:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your GA nomination of Jainism and non-creationism

The article Jainism and non-creationism you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Jainism and non-creationism for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Cheers, CP 20:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Undeletion of other micronation articles

Hi John. Earlier this year 2 important micronation articles were deleted by a rampant admin despite the fact that there was an even split between delete/keep votes on the AFDs for each of them, and hence no justification for deletion.

I'm referring to Flags of micronations and Coats of arms of micronations. The content for these articles was drawn from the existing list of notable micronation articles within WP.

Do you think we should simply recreate the articles, or is going through the formal undeletion process preferable? --Gene_poole 04:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply John. In my opinion the 2 articles should be recreated in their previous form, rather than incorporating them into List of micronations, because the stand-alone pages follow the format and precedent of all other existing flag and coat-of-arms related articles in WP, for which a template exists. Given the historic acrimony associated with their deletion, it would be better if someone other than me recreated them. Do you want to do the deed? I'll happily clean them up afterwards. As far as JRG goes, he agreed to take the content into his personal space to save the it from being lost completely during the deletion campaign - so I'm amost certain he'll support the recreation. --Gene_poole 06:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your WikiProject Biography ideas

I certainly agree that we need more workgroups, possibly some of the ones you listed. What's more important, however, is having workgroups that actually work as a group and get things done. I also think the core biography project has been a failure. It's very difficult to work on articles like those, especially when basically nobody is working on them. I've been focusing on Wikisource lately so I haven't spent much time on Wikipedia lately, but I will bring this up on the main talk page when I can. Psychless 02:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your help

Thanks for removing the fiction tag on the resurrection article... I don't feel that the tag was necessarily 'profoundly inappropriate' but I think it was the wrong tag for whatever the editor intended (assuming good faith)... but thanks for removing it. I hesitate to remove those things without a second opinion. Nice to meet you, and thanks for your contributions to the best collaboration in history. User:Pedant 07:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for commenting on the WikiProject.

And I've added those details to its description. Hopefully now it stands out from the crowd.--Gp75motorsports 11:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK Award for 50 articles - Belated, but here

(DYK) section, which presents short blurbs and links to new articles.

The 50 DYK Medal
I, Victuallers, hereby award you with The 50 DYK Medal, for your over 50 contributions to the Wikipedia:Did you know? section as featured on the Main Page. Your work is appreciated. Thank you. Yours, Victuallers 11:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Head's up regarding your signature

I have noticed that you sign your posts as "John Carter" which is rather different than your actual username of "Warlordjohncarter". WP:SIG states:

In no circumstance should a signature be used to impersonate another user: in particular, a signature should not be identical to the actual username of another existing user, and even more importantly should not link to someone else's userpage. While not an absolute requirement, it is common practice for a signature to resemble to some degree the username it represents.

Therefore, I would suggest you create the user John Carter and redirect that user to your userpage #REDIRECT [[User:Warlordjohncarter]]. That will prevent someone from "stealing" your identity, or prevent you from being accused of such. Otherwise, you might want to reconsider your signature. Regards.--Old Hoss 21:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually surprised that the name was available. When I first created the account, I seem to remember thinking that that name was already taken. Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for your alerting me to the situation. :) John Carter 21:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC) (cut & pasted from my talk page for continuity)
Now that you mention it, you might want to sign in/create that account to make sure the username is not taken - just because you could create the redirect does not necessarily mean someone has that account (that was my fault for not mentioning that, I did not foresee that possibility). After I read some more, you might want to scrap the redirect and instead label it as a {{Doppelganger}} account; be sure to make the edit not as "Warlordjohncarter", but as "John Carter". Sorry for the mix-up on that. Regards.--Old Hoss 21:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for helping on the Biblical vs. biblical problem

I am pleasantly surprised to see how good a job you did of writing a fair and thorough synopsis for the MOS:CAPS talk page (I was watching that page to see if it would come up there!) Thanks for taking care to present a neutral, balanced summary of the matter. Til Eulenspiegel 22:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The final WikiProject James Bond collaboration of the fortnight

WikiProject James Bond:Collaboration of the fortnight (two weeks)
The new collaboration for this fortnight is (October 20, 2007 - November 3, 2007) is

Diamonds Are Forever (film)

Please contribute by editing this article, in an attempt to get it to good article status
For more information see the page here or contact SpecialWindler.
CHECK OUT THE TALK PAGE, FOR THINGS YOU CAN DO ON Diamonds Are Forever (film)
The Living Daylights is currently a GA nominee.
THE COLLABORATION WILL CEASE ON NOVEMBER 6 2007 due to failing standards and low participants. If you still wish this collaboration to run, then work hard in making this collaboration of GA status.

Thankyou,  SpecialWindler talk (currently offline)  03:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Shell Creek

You do a lot of nice work in Wikipedia. I'm curious why Shell Creek would be a WikiProject Montana article? No offense intended-I'm new to this community. Thanks--DutchTower 13:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Image-David Koresh mugshot.jpg)

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[edit] With much gratitude

I would like to thank you for the award you bestowed. It is my hope that my work will continue to live up to the esteem you've offered. (I'm still scratching my head at the implications of Alexander Haig, though... ;) ) Most appreciatively, Girolamo Savonarola 19:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jenna Jameson from Montana?

In what way does Jenna Jameson qualify as being from Montana? [4] She was born in Vegas, and now lives in Arizona. --AnonEMouse (squeak) 22:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Preity Zinta A-class

Hey old buddy howz it going? Can you beleive they killed my old kitty in the commons and forced me to get a new one. I now have an exceptionally evil one with one blue eye and one brown!! Could you check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/A-class review and have alook at Preity Zinta. I would be deeply grateful if you could review it. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 13:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikProject History

I'd appreciate some input from you at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Task force images and Wikipedia:WikiProject History/Review#Airship. Thanks!--Phoenix 15 (Talk) 17:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject CFL

I noticed that you have been adding non-CFL articles to the project, such as Canadian Bowl, Quebec Bantam Football League, etc. While these are Canadian football-related articles, they are outside the scope of the Canadian Football League, and should be outside the scope of the project as well. The sport and the league are two different things, and the subjects of the articles in question may not have any particular affiliation with the league. Until we have a parent project for Canadian football, I don't think we should add these kinds of articles, and if no one objects, I will be removing the tags. heqs ·:. 04:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

It only makes sense to rename the project to WikiProject Canadian football, then, as that is the category / umbrella topic for all these articles. Portal:Canadian football is already correct in this respect. heqs ·:. 13:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Superman merger

Yeah, I saw, I think we're kind of crossing over each other a little. I've moved the discussion back since the merge templates both link to it on the project page, and I also think it will gain broader input there, the workgroups aren't really on the radar yet, I'm still trying to get everything set up right. Sorry about all the confusion, Steve block Talk 16:28, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Banner

I'll probably set the categories up as I get the banner up to speed, so I can test it all and make sure the bot will run through and that it all links up, but I'll keep you in mind if I get stuck. :) Steve block Talk 22:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History banner

The banner is done and I'll get Kirill to add the syntax to the documentation. You can start whenever--Phoenix 15 (Talk) 19:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Agriculture Project Talk Page Banner

John, thanks for your technical clean up of our categories and addition of the assessment department. Do you know why our Banner is linking NA articles to Category:NA-Class articles rather than Category:Non-article Agriculture pages? I thought I had the code correct, but I must be missing something. Also, I've placed the latter category in the former, but it is alphabetizing under "N", which doesn't make sense, do you know how to fix that? Finally, how do we make the other assessment categories (stub, B, etc.) go to the right place, wherever that may be? Thanks again.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Ha! you're right, I was looking at the banner itself. But only "NA" seems to link to anything, the other assessments are redlinked. In other words, if I assess an article as B-Class and then mouse-over the "B" it should link to B-Class Articles, but it is redlinked. Do you know the problem?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 00:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Double-checking, the above example seems to attempt to link to B-Class agriculture articles, other project's banners seem to link to Category:B-Class articles rather than "Category:B-Class Topic articles". Do you know which is correct and in either case how to fix ours?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 00:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Ignore my first questions, they were a mistake of failing to look at the bottom of the page at the cats. But these last two paragraphs, plus this one, I'm specifically referring to the banners themselves. Where the rating shows on the banner should be a link to something. All the other banners seem to link to "Category X-class articles", whereas our banner is redlinked and seems to be trying to link to "X-Class agriculture articles" (in article space). Obviously that makes no sense, but it shouldn't be redlinked in anycase, it should either be linking to "Category X-class articles" like all the other project banners appear to, or at least be fixed to link to "Category:X-class agriculture articles". For some reason NA is correct (or at least it is consistent with other banners. All of the cats at the bottom of the page seem to be fine (now that I'm looking in the right place), but that's an unrelated issue. Take a look at Talk:Oat. Notice that the "Start" on each of the other two project banners is blue and links to Category:Start-Class articles, but our "B" is red.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 01:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nominating AfD

Hi, if you want to nominate an article for deletion, please follow the process listed here: WP:AFD#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion.

Thank you. Carlosguitar 16:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CFL categories

Now that the project has been renamed (and thanks btw, I updated some redirects to it as well as attempted to get the Portal:Canadian football going), we should move the Category:WikiProject Canadian Football League → Category:WikiProject Canadian football as well. As these are template-populated, and you started the templates I thought you might want to take care of the changes - I'm not totally familiar with how all the WikiProject categories work. Let me know if there's anything I can do, heqs ·:. 19:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A-class review: Preity Zinta

Hello! I've been waiting for your reply. Most of your instructions for the page have been have been completed, except for one controversies intro. What do you think on it now? (Sorry for coming to you directly) Shahid • Talk2me 22:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

You may have not noticed my message because of the following message, but I see you're busy so OK thanks anyway, Shahid • Talk2me 22:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Rhodesiancoatofarms.png

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[edit] Category:Pocket pets

Category:Pocket pets has been nominated for deletion; you are invited to participate in the discussion located here. – Black Falcon (Talk) 01:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPRhodesia

Hi, John Carter, and welcome to WikiProject
Rhodesia!

We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles relevant to Rhodesia. Here are some points that may be helpful:

  • Our main aim is to help improve Rhodesia-related articles, so if people ask for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able.
  • Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it.
  • The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as the current collaboration, which you are welcome to participate.
  • If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign Rhodesia topics.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

Again, welcome! We hope you enjoy working on this project.

Mangwanani 11:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)