User talk:John/Archive 11

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[edit] Thank you for the welcome!

As a result of previous experience with Wikipedia, I have, however, no interest in establishing an account. Enjoy your day. 87.187.62.90 15:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AJ Feeley

I am sorry about earlier. I was simply trying to revert to an earlier good posting on the AJ Feeley page after somebody made a long revision full of poor grammer and obvious bias. I think I inadvertantly reverted back to a page that had vandalism in it. If you look at my other contributions, I think you will see that I am a sensible and serious Wikipedia contributor.

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the welcome, I hope that i'm doing the right stuff to have been noticed. Anibius 00:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:F16am-5z.jpg listed for deletion

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Deleted.--Guinnog 16:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back

Very glad to see you are back. Gwernol 17:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! It's very nice to be welcomed. What have I missed? --Guinnog 17:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh man. Well WP:OR, WP:V and WP:RS have been replaced by WP:A; Essjay was a whole big thing; several other good admins have gone and we've got some new ones too; the vandals haven't stopped; the encyclopedia has grown. And many other things I've forgotten already. Best, Gwernol 17:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Gosh. Yes I heard about Essjay. Otherwise par for the course. Thanks for the update, and thanks again for the welcome, that was appreciated. --Guinnog 17:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The other thing you should check out are our shiny new user warning notices. Very shiny. Gwernol 14:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, yes that all looks quite different from what I remember. Are there warnings for leaving warnings which fail to comply with the guideline? :) --Guinnog 20:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:-) Actually they're pretty easy to get used to. You might want to check out WP:TWINKLE - horrid name but very useful tools to leave user warnings. I'm using a variant of them I built myself. And thanks for the revert on my user page this evening. Gwernol 02:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation

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[edit] Caretaking

No problem. Tyrenius 02:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

But I can find one if you want! Tyrenius 04:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937

Hi! When u say "aircraft with transponders" it feels for me (non native speaker) like it should be "aircrafts with transponder", because: There might be multiple aircrafts around and each one has -AFAIK- just one relevant/active transponder... Btw.: What was bad about the link to the transponder article (should it be transponder (aviation))? Bye. --Homer Landskirty 19:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Aircraft is still written the same in the plural as in the singular in English.--Guinnog 19:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

cool... :-) --Homer Landskirty 20:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re Vandal Report

Thank you very much for the information. Is it all the same user, do you think? Regards --Domer48 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] bad image

dude, your image of the wtc sucks. centered caption "view from the east" implies the towers were much farther apart than they were. also, wtf is "H"?? it's not labeled nor a common abbreviation. Height? you gotta make that clear if you want a grown-up image. spell out, its only five extra letters that wont kill you. also, without the edit, it's simply a misleading graphic. no room for selfish napoleons

[edit] Squad templates

Hi Guinnog, welcome back. I just noticed you removed the WC/Euro Champ squad templates from Jim Leighton - you may be interested in this recent tfd. I'm not sure about anthonycfc's closing of it as a keep - seemed to be no concensus on balance of opinions, with several of the keep votes being on the proviso that a hiding option was implemented. See also the Football Project's talk on the subject. Caledonian Place 19:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome, and for that bit of heads-up. These templates are a bloody eyesore. I wish people would spend the same amount of time and energy improving the (often very poor) articles, instead of templating them. --Guinnog 19:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I was just a bit surprised that User:Anthony cfc closed it as a keep - is there not an established % level for what can be deemed a result and what is no concensus, or is a majority all that is required? It seemed a very weak mandate to keep. Caledonian Place 20:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I reviewed the TfD and was rather surprised too. The thing is, where there is no consensus, that is effectively a "keep" anyway. What we need is someone who can implement the suggestion that these templates should at least be collapsible, or else a concerted effort to remove them from articles where they add nothing, which I would say is most of the time. If I ever see an article like the Leighton one where a very short and fairly poor article is dwarfed by 5 or 6 templates, I always remove them. This is an encyclopedia we are building, not Panini trading cards. --Guinnog 20:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Africa

Hi Guinnog -- No, its not better, the lead in sentence is unreadable (try doing it out loud, only after several pints of guinness does it sound good) and it's not a full list of alternative names anyway -- if you have just one alternative name, you have to have them all. There's a perfectly good article listing all of them and all it needs is a link there. And, it's not the 'British' Commonwealth of Nations. Time for a drink. Rexparry sydney 23:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree, sorry. Take it to talk, maybe. --Guinnog 23:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back my friend

Hey Mr Guinnog, I am very pleased to see you active again. :) I hope you had a good break and that everything is going well in your neck of the woods. Take good care of yourself and best wishes to you and your family. Cheers, Sarah 05:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sarah, and thanks for the welcome. It's good to be back! --Guinnog 07:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Botswana

Hi. I've moved the articles back to "Botswanan" as this is the correct term. If you don't believe me, see what Wiktionary or Dictionary.com have to say about Botswana (a noun only) or Botswanan (adjective). Number 57 10:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Is the Oxford English Dictionary a good enough source? It includes dialects other than British, yet does not have Botswana as an adjective. Number 57 16:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

According to the OED the locally used adjective form is Tswana! Number 57 16:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I came across this as an option too, on the Bots government site. I would say this is used more often to describe cultural identity; political entities always use Botswana as the adjective, for example the army ("Botswana Defence Force"), and every single political party. It certainly isn't "Botswanan". That's just wrong. --Guinnog 16:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay - I was abroad yesterday. By the way, is there a Botswanan English dictionary? Perhaps you could quote this next time someone brings up this dispute (it seems like you have had it before!). Number 57 09:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I have no shame admitting I was wrong, and I'm glad the issue was sorted. Anyway, once I have eventually completed the Israeli politics section, I plan to fill in those redlinks on the Botswana election template using Albert C. Nunley's wonderful African Elections website, so I'm sure we shall bump into each other again. Keep up the good work! Number 57 19:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] David Tennant

Hi, Guinnog. I noticed that you removed David Tennant from Category:Irish-Scots, saying that there was "no evidence for cat". The evidence is in the "Personal life" section, which discusses his Ulster ancestry. You probably just missed it; I've restored the category to the article. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Josiah. To be honest I had missed it, but the assertion is still unsourced and needs to be verifiable for the category to be valid. There should really be a consensus to include this category as well, but I would settle for a source for the TV show statement. Best wishes --Guinnog 16:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cissie Loftus

Well, she was born in Scotland to a family of Irish Catholic descent (per surname and the fact that she was educated at a convent school), the latter of which is noted in the reference source book.O'Donoghue 20:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Johan Cruijff and bad editors

For one see: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Marlon.sahetapy

For two, have a look at the edit that he made. It was a massive revert, removing all of my previous edits with no real explanation.

I have left the user a personal talk message explaining my position more clearly, but strong words, in my opinion, were needed. aLii 21:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

So I should have said "Dr.Sauerkraut appreciate your concern, but no blanket edits and rewrites please"? Note that he has only ever contributed half a sentence to the article, but for some weird reason likes to revert to a "random" badly-written, POV-ridden, poorly-referenced earlier version that he "apparently" had little to do with. aLii 21:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hope that's good enough for you, it took a lot of effort. aLii 20:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sigh... (Sockpuppet?) help has turned up to allow him to beat a potential 3RR ban, and revert the page again. No comment on the talk page has been forthcoming from either "user". Any ideas on how best to work with this editor? aLii 00:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LOL

Hmm! Tyrenius 03:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought it was funny too! --Guinnog 07:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

To entertain the troops. Tyrenius 07:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I Need Help

Hi, I want to make my own user page but dont know how to get them little boxes you have going down the right hand side. How do you get those? Also, are you a Celtic fan by any chance? I have also noticed that you do not record your ancestry on your user page, is there any reason for this? That last question is just out of interest really because when i was at uni i did my dissertation on identity in the UK thats all. Tammi Magee (nee O'Connor)TammiMagee 14:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tammi. You are welcome to copy any of the code from my user page and incorporate it into yours. Just play around, using the preview button until you have it how you want it. I regard allegiances and ethnicities as more damaging than helpful on a project like this, which is why I display that particular box. My football allegiances are too complex and desultory to be worth discussing. Best wishes, --Guinnog 22:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PAGE HELP!!

Can you visit my page and comment on it? I want some advice on making it more catchy, and I like the set up of yours. I am not a new user. Read my little sandboxes like LongRiver Ledger and NEOPETSetc. and comment MAINLY on those please! THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE!! PLEASE VISIT AND COMMENT!! thanx!! BEATLES RULE!!! go fonz! 21:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It's coming on. Using capitals is frowned upon here as being over emphatic. Best wishes, --Guinnog 22:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Sorry about the airbus thing. Just trying to help. Guess I did it in the wrong way. Thanks for telling me ;-)! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.53.208.164 (talk) 04:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Your comment

Thanks for pointing that out Guinnog, but you should direct your comment to Allii who started to make wholesale content and style changes to the "original article"; original as in broadly unchanged over a long period of time. Changes are fine when it concerns a better structure (quotes to Wikiquote etc) more in line with Wiki-guidelines but not fine for wholesale content & style changes without proper debate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brasileiro1969 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

See User talk:Alii h for my message to that user. Please contribute at Talk:Johan Cruijff. Thanks. --Guinnog 18:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

One question. Who are you to qualify Alli contributions as good faith ones and discount my edits? Only proper debate can establish this, which has been lacking since the start of Alli numerous wholesale edits. So you threatening me with further action is offensive to me and I ask you to stop that and start encouraging Allii to debate things before changing. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brasileiro1969 (talk • contribs)

I am an administrator on this project. I already showed you what I wrote to Alii h. I am encouraging you both to discuss the matter in article talk; if you are silly enough to turn it into a revert war I would not block you as I have edited the article extensively myself. I would however be sure to turn the matter over to another, neutral, admin to take whatever action they deemed necessary. Please, please, take it to talk. --Guinnog 18:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Clawson

I added a comment on your vote. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 03:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, "concerted degree of campaigning"? There is one user, JohnHistory, who canvassed against Clawson and was accordingly blocked. That hardly amounts to "concerted degree", which sounds deragatory towards the opposing users, if I may say so. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Of course you may say so. Use of templates is a valid admin task; I use them all the time and I'm not sure what your point was about them. --Guinnog 08:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, the one diff that shows Clawson's most "diligent and correct application of policy" (and which you seemed to include as a rebuttal of the numerous diffs I brought up) is of him using a template message instead of his own words. Regarding being civil and humble, he certainly was, but still, I had to explain my point three times over until we got there, and I dare say I showed some patience he sometimes didn't show while arguing with various users up until very recently. Anyhow, whatever the result of the RfA, I sure hope and am also confident that he learned from the experience. The question remains, did he learn more from your voting input or from mine? —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 09:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I take your point. I would hope he has learned from both. --Guinnog 15:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well spoken. :) —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How do you do?

Thank you for the kind welcome at my user page, Guinnog. I'll take a look at the links you included. Did you have a particular suggestion in mind? I'd known already about the four-tilde sign-off, thank you, but I may have overlooked it in one of the discussion comments I've made. (I've only done a few so far.) There's plenty to learn here about Wiki editorial controls and mechanisms, but it seems a worthy enterprise. There was an interesting article about Wikipedia contributers, written by Aaron Swartz, in which he separates them into two broad groups: of administrators (who make a large number of small organizational changes) versus specialists (who make a few large contributions, dealing more with content than with form). Being new, I'm in a third group, of course—making a small number of small changes. I see you're from Scotland. Have you read James Kelman? I'm from California, hence the "organize" with a "z." See you round. Fagiolonero 08:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mt SAC Image

Good day, I am curious of your reasoning for deleting the image of the Mt SAC flying team aircraft from the Mt SAC website. Any clarification would be appreciated --Trashbag 14:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Correction, you deleted the entire image from the data base. Now I'm really curious of your reasoning. --Trashbag 14:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

So what can I use for a photo that was shot by one of the college professors (now department chair) and used with permission? I have reuploaded the shot but any assistance on this would be appreciated before it gets zapped again... --Trashbag 14:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now you're borderlining on being a bad name I can't say here. Next time give the person the opportunity to fix the image problem. According to Wikipedia:Image use policy under Deleting Images you are to "contact (through their talk page) the user who uploaded the image, telling them of your concerns." That would really help out us novices. --Trashbag 14:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

So let me express again, I have permission from the photoprapher to use this image. What tag should I be using here, I'm not trying to argue. I am seriously looking for assistance. --Trashbag 14:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yowzers... a barn thingy!

Mind? Wow, no, of course I don't mind! Thank you very much! --Dweller 12:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Townshend

This article has been the subject of many many battles and edit wars. Huge amount of time put into this by people with differing views. An administrator finally helped resolve the whole matter. See talk page for the article. This addition will open up the entire war again. Not desirable nor necessary. Davidpatrick 18:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: David Tennant

Hi, Tennant discusses his Irish ancestry in the BBC's Who Do You Think You Are? programme.[1] [2] This is already briefly covered in the article. How does one go about adding references to categories? Martin 23:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use in user space

You removed a public domain image from my user space saying it was licensed fairuse. The list from HighInBC states "Important note: some templates such as {{Money}} put an image in the fair use category even if it may be appropriately licensed or in the public domain. I will be attempting to screen out these categories as best I can but please check to be sure an image is only fair use before removing them from a page." Please pay attention before altering user pages, that image had text on it that stated copyright was expired. SchmuckyTheCat 19:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I had already noticed your reversion of my change. --Guinnog 19:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Hi John/Archive 11, this is a message I'm posting to everyone who participated in this AfD. I have nominated the same article for deletion again here – you might be interested. Regards, K issL 09:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you for your Support on my recent nomination for adminship, which passed with a final tally of 89/1/1. If there's anything I can help with, then you know where to find me. Cheers.

- Michael Billington (talk) 11:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ian McEwan

You made an edit to the Ian McEwan article, saying in the edit summary "flag is unnecessary here, see wp:flag". Unfortunately none of wp:flag, WP:Flag or WP:flag work. Could you please provide a link to where I should be looking? Thank you. (Note: I'm not at all disputing your edit.) H. Carver 13:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent successful RfA, and thank you also for your message of congratulation.--Anthony.bradbury 20:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ANI

There's a discussion about you at ANI. I'm trying to support you but User:MONGO reverts my comments calling me a vandal. See this DIFF 1, DIFF 2 and User talk:I'm so special

I'm sure you'll agree we have a trolling problem here? --I'm so special 10:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I think Guinnog's smart enough to figure out who the troll is. – Chacor 10:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

FYI, I have belatedly posted a comment to the ANI thread, which you might wish to take a look at. Regards, Newyorkbrad 22:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Guinnog, thanks very much. I'm not 100% sure what actually went on. I signed in and found myself blocked for trolling. Is there anything we can do now or should I just let it go? --You have been blessed with a message from I'm so special 12:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Cheers! I was actually trying to follow WP:NOT and allow a new user to have an opinion in his or her username. Never mind eh! --You have been blessed with a message from I'm so special 12:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, one last thing - at User talk:MONGO, MONGO says: One of the biggest mistakes on Wikipedia (and I was cautioned about this when I made it) was when I supported his adminship. If he continues to make the kind of violations he has done this time, he'll end up being desyopped.--MONGO 08:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Is it not correct that MONGO was himself de-sysopped? I now have the mother of all headaches. LOL --You have been blessed with a message from I'm so special 12:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok! I hope to deal with you again soon. Thanks --You have been blessed with a message from I'm so special 12:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Check your email, please. :) – Chacor 15:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)