User talk:JohnCD/Archive 2

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1 March 2008

[edit] March 2008

[edit] The Sound of Reason

Sorry I am new to this and I did read the guidelines, I'm a bit confused about what you meant when you said the contents don't match the subject. The sound of reason is the name of the band I wrote about. --4min4 (talk) 21:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't apologise, there are an awful lot of guidelines and it is confusing at first (in fact not just at first!) But now I'm confused - I don't think I said "the contents don't match the subject", and I did understand that "The Sound of Reason" was the name of the band. The speedy-deletion tag I put on said: "It is an article about a band... that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject"; that is, the article didn't show that the band was notable as defined in WP:MUSIC, which has a long list of "Criteria for musicians and ensembles" - released two or more albums on a major label, had a charted hit on a national chart, made an international concert tour, subject of multiple non-trivial works from a reliable, independent sources... Read WP:MUSIC again, and if you think the band does meet that standard, then write the article again making clear how it does, and giving references so that your sources can be checked. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Delete

so should I go back and delete the afd tags and replace with {{db-author}} ? Granite07 (talk) 22:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

No, someone has already done that for you, and the pages are gone; I just let you know how to do it, in case it should happen again that you want to get rid of a page you created. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

How was my edit to andy mccallin vandalism and the page on damian dillon is all fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ledybo (talk • contribs) 17:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Riaan Manser

I have added some more info to the Riaan Manser page. I think it deserves to be on Wikipedia, it is an interesting historical fact.Christianpunk (talk) 17:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

That's OK - when I tagged the page for speedy deletion, there was only a single sentence and no supporting references. Since then, more information has been added, making it clear the subject is notable enough not to qualify for speedy deletion, and another editor has taken off the speedy tag. So you don't need {{hangon}} any more, and I've removed it.

Another time, it is best not to put an article in until there is enough of it to make clear it is a serious article: unfortunately, a lot of people put in articles that are one trivial line or otherwise unsuitable, and as one way of weeding them out, the "New Pages Patrol" looks at them as they come in and tags ones that look unsuitable. You can prepare an article off-line in a word-processor like Notepad, and try it out in the sandbox, until it's ready to go in. Another possibility is to put {{underconstruction}} at the top of a part-finished article, which will protect it for a few days. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

In my Egypt book, Dier el-Bahri is spelled differently, that's y I goofed, sorry about that, and that other Dier el-Bahri Di-something, I didnt make that...someone did, I just made one today, the Dier el-Bahri, the one that I goofed on, IM A NEWBIE, SO IM NOT REAL GOOD AT THIS... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aresurkas (talk • contribs) 19:05, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of new Baird Jones page

Speedy deletion of new Baird Jones page

JohnCD -

The proto-article that I created on Baird Jones meets the criteria for notability as I interpret them, and was primarily meant as a starting point for other editors to expand upon. Please "google" Mr. Jones to reaffirm his significance; The New York Times does not write article-length obituaries about unknown persons. As a matter of fact, I was shocked when learning of Mr. Jones' recent untimely death to discover that Wikipedia does not already have an entry for him; I have read entries about numerous lesser-known subjects that happily persist on this forum.

As an example, I deliberately included a link to Mark Kostabi's wiki-page. Front and center is a picture of Mr. Kostabi with . . . Baird Jones. It makes Wikipedia stronger when it is possible to cross-reference individuals, places, and events that are included in the content of other entries. Otherwise, users such as myself must just scratch our heads and wonder about those mentioned with no corresponding entry.

Thank you.

Asingleton-green (talk) 22:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

One of Wikipedia's problems is that encouraging everyone to contribute means that a steady stream of unsuitable articles pours in, many on an "I'll finish it when I have time" or "Perhaps someone else will improve this" basis. As one way to filter them, the (informal) New Pages Patrol looks at them as they come in and flags unsuitable ones for admin attention. So it is important that a new article is full enough to make clear that it has at least the potential to meet Wikipedia's standards.

I didn't actually delete the article on Baird Jones - I flagged it as not, in my opinion, indicating notability, and then an admin looked at it, agreed, and did the actual deletion. So I can't now see it but, as I recall, it did not provide any references, which are an important way to establish notability. "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject."

If you want to re-create the article, my advice is: read carefully the guidelines on Notability, Notability (people), Verifiability and Reliable Sources. The guide to writing Your_first_article is helpful, too. Do any necessary googling to find references. Write your article again, and don't actually put it in until it is complete, including references. If it is challenged, put {{hangon}} at the top, and give reasons on its talk page.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

JohnCD - I understand that you might not have deleted the Baird Jones page that you flagged for speedy deletion personally, but I never had the chance to {hangon}. Please see the associated link: [[1]], which I had no part in creating. Shouldn't it be incumbent upon you to do even a minor web search before passing judgement on who is notable and who is not? With all due respect, I doubt you or I or several thousand of other Wikipedia entrants will ever achieve the level of notability that Baird Jones achieved. Which administrator deleted his page? I can put it up again, but I am extremely frustrated by what seems to me to be a broken process. I am no vandal (nor hun, nor visigoth), and the instantaneous deletion of a legitimate contribution to your community was, a mon avis, wrong. Please reply and explain why I am misguided. Thanks.

Asingleton-green (talk) 03:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Consider that new articles are created at a rate of more than one a minute, and that Wikipedia editors are unpaid volunteers on just the same footing as yourself (except for a small proportion, also unpaid volunteers, who have extra duties and powers as administrators). I don't see why you should expect other editors to do your research for you. From the link you now present, it seems that references to establish Baird Jones's notability are available, so that an acceptable article about him could be written. Fine - go ahead and write it. Or, as pointed out on the search page, you can put it on a list of requested articles and someone else may pick up on the idea; but you can't demand that they should - an article gets written when someone is interested enough to do the work.

Nor do I think you can really complain of a broken process: the pages you must have gone through on the way to creating your article set out Wikipedia's requirements very clearly - quote:

"You can create this article:

Read Wikipedia:Your first article.
Gather references to the source(s) of your information.
Create the page including your references."

...and "Your first article" starts with 8 tips to consider, of which nos. 3, 6 and 8 concern references again.

The article you put in was deleted, not because we assumed its subject was not notable, but because the article didn't indicate his notability. However, the notification you got told you why, and gave a you a name to complain to; if you now put "Baird Jones" into the search box and click "Go", and on the next screen under "You can create this article" click "Create the page", you will get to a screen which (after again referring you to "Your first article" and to the need for references) shows you which administrator deleted the article, when and why. You can complain to him, but I think you will get much the same answer as this.

You may have a point that the speedy-deletion process is rather too speedy, but in view of the rate at which new articles appear, a regrettably high proportion of which are unsuitable (and a surprising number libellous), some form of input filter is necessary; and speedy deletion is not necessarily the end of an article.

I hope that as a result of all this you will rewrite the article with sources and we will end up with a good article on Baird Jones. Then I think the process will have worked correctly. The alternative would have been for me to flag it "notability doubtful" and "lacks references", when it might well have lingered on in that state, or been nominated for deletion later. There is a "Wikiproject notability" who work to try to improve articles like that, but their current backlog is over 15,000. Better for you, who are the one interested in Baird Jones, to get the article right in the first place. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I will try to follow your advice.

Asingleton-green (talk) 20:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spam warning for Insurepink

Care to elaborate as to how this version constitutes spam? I agree that the original article was promotional material, but I tried my best to rewrite it in a neutral tone. I'm not particularly committed to the article so I don't feel like fighting over it, but it seems like its worth at least getting some debate over before deleting. I'm not sure if it's notable enough to keep, but I think the spam tag here is way off. Fightindaman (talk) 17:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I was suspicious of Insurepink because it had been speedied six times already: Lowey100 (talk · contribs), a single-purpose account, kept inserting it, got blocked 24 hrs, carried on, got blocked a week, inserted it again the day that block expired, was indef-blocked at 16:57 today, and within five minutes the article was back again from you - this began to look like an organised campaign and my first thought was that you must be a new sock of Lowey100. However I see that you are an established editor, and that another user has taken the spam tag off: it still looks like an advertisement to me, but I won't edit-war about it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whytegold

Hey,

What is wrong with the Whytegold entry? I'd be grateful if you could put it back up, it's all true information.

It may well be all true but still not suitable for Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia not a business directory or advertising service. You should read the Business' FAQ and the guidelines on Conflict of Interest, Advertising and Notability (organizations and companies). JohnCD (talk) 19:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I understand your point, but what if I want to make it an encyclopedia article. The page gives information about Whytegold like all the other company pages. I have no promotional schemes or offers. Could you tell me which parts dont comply the the rules? That'd be really helpful. Thanks

The best advice I can give you is already there in the Business' FAQ. See especially the sections headed:

Remember, too, that one of the ways Wikipedia differs from a business directory is that if your company has an article you don't own it, and cannot prevent other people from editing it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

thanks for welcoming me, and also i understood what you said in my talkpage. Dsr2008 (talk) 23:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not As Good As Us

I'll do the necessary work to get the page on properly, but is there any way I can get my original text back? It wasn't War And Peace, I admit, but I wanted to save it :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paustin (talk • contribs) 13:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

You can contact the admin who actually deleted it, Jmlk17 (talk · contribs), or any admin in Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles. Ask for the article to be restored into your user space for you to work on. But make sure the band meets the criteria in Notability (music), and that your article shows how they do, with references from independent, reliable sources, or it'll just be deleted again. One other thing - when you leave a message on a talk page, it's a good thing to end it with four "tilde" characters ~~~~ - the system automatically turns that into a "signature" with your username plus the time and date - like this: JohnCD (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fa Real (Artist)

Hello, I would like to ask if I can keep my page for the time being...? Averageguyfromdereksforum (talk) 19:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a ~~meganerd~~ admin; but nobody can give you a "free pass" for an article that doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements. It won't stay unless the subject meets the standards of notability set out in Notability (music), and the article provides references from independent, reliable sources. Also, if it's about you, you need to read the guidelines on Autobiography and Conflict of Interest. The point is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory or an advertising medium or a social networking site. Sorry, JohnCD (talk) 20:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Oooh. Thanks anyway Averageguyfromdereksforum (talk) 20:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brazil (band)

I changed my vote on an the AFD I started. Felt I should let you know. I still feel it is horribly weak on the sourcing, but they got it in on a technicality. -Optigan13 (talk) 22:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know - I'll look at it again in the morning. Seems there are more sources than appeared. It looks as if it'll stay anyway, even if I don't bother to change my vote. JohnCD (talk) 22:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Patrolling

Can you keep an eye on the Hazrat fatimah article, the creator keeps removing the tags instead of letting due process take place. I tagged it as nonsense because a) one would have though that a daughter of Muhammad would already have an article, and b) it starts off in the present tense and uses the past tense later on. I've left a note on the creators talk page about the process. Mjroots (talk) 11:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

OK - it seems to have gone, but I'll keep an eye in case it comes back. JohnCD (talk) 13:47, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism

I did not block the IP, as the vandalism stopped Diff. You could bring the topic up on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or just wait and see what happens next time, your choice. Jeepday (talk) 13:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll wait and see - they seem to have gone quiet. JohnCD (talk) 16:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Maloney

Hi JohnCD, Didn't intend the entry as a personal attack. The inspiration for the entry is actually in the room right now, and we're editing it together. It's a fairly common, and growing, term among Annapolis locals, particularly in the downtown area, between the ages of 25 and 40 and something that a number of us would categorize as worth entry into Wikipedia...as it is referenced, like any good cultural term, worldwide. I personally can trace it's random usage to folks in California, Hawaii, even Prague in the Czech Republic and troops have used it in Afganistan. So if this doesn't fit the standard of content for Wikipedia, please let me know. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Wes Sims —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaibash09 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Some funny friends, Mr Maloney has... I have put on your talk page the more friendly welcome paragraph you would have got if I hadn't thought it was an attack. Read the guidelines it points to, particularly about verification from independent, reliable sources; also about how Wikipedia is not that keen on neologisms and is particularly not for things you made up one day. One other thing - when you leave a note on a talk page, it's considered polite to end it with four tilde characters ~~~~ which the system automatically turns into a timed and dated signature - like this: regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] page deleted

can you tell me why you deleted the page i was trying to put on wikipedia? i placed it yesterday, but left a link and it was deleted. As i found out, the link might have been a problem, so I didn't put it this time. And its not an advertising! There are general information about the products and how they work and it is only for further knowledge and as an example for readers that I mentioned a specific product. Can you tell me what should I do? Thx Harshy (talk) 11:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Harshy

Even without the link, it was still promotional. You will find advice on contributing when you or your company have an interest at the Business' FAQ. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:04, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I tried to put it again. Do you know how to unblock the title for the future? I try to work on it. Thx. Harshy (talk)Harshy —Preceding comment was added at 12:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The title isn't blocked: if you enter it in the search box and click "Go" you will get to a screen on which you can click "Create the page". But read the advice on those screens, especially the Guide to creating your first article, and read the Business' FAQ carefully, or the article will just be deleted again. If any part of your motive is to promote your company or its products, even indirectly, Wikipedia is not the place to do it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Appreciate the Help

JohnCD, Thanks for your help last week, I really appreciate it. I know from your talk page that you aren't looking for Wikipedia to take over your life, but I was wondering if you'd be interested in writing and submitting the article that I was tying to post. I've read the guidelines and believe that my article conforms to the standards, yet I know I have little hope of successfully posting this article. The link to the article is User:David.a.gelman/Mobivox Draft.

The reasons why I believe this article belongs on Wikipedia can be found on the talk page of this link, but essentially they boil down to the fact that this company utilizes several “hot” telephony technologies and is unique in the combination of these technologies. If you disagree I would greatly appreciate hearing your reasons why. If you simply do not want to write it, would you mind suggesting someone who might. As a note, I've posted on the talk pages' of several relevant articles asking if anyone would be willing to write this article but have yet to see anything come of it. David.a.gelman (talk) 17:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to write the article or put it in myself (and it would have no special protection if I did), but I would like to help because you are going the right way about it. I'll do some looking around and try to advise you, but it may take a few days, so don't stop your other efforts. JohnCD (talk) 18:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eyesore

You PROD'd this article. An IP removed it and I thus listed it for deletion. Just thought I'd notify you. Take care! Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 23:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll have a look at it. JohnCD (talk) 09:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Brian Heaton page

How does this meet the criteria for speedy deletion? It may not have been long, but Heaton is a GOD in the goalie equipment world and deserves an article -- it certainly could've been expanded on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beijing goalie (talk • contribs) 15:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The reason was WP:CSD#A7 "An article about a real person... that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant." You know he's "a god", but the article didn't say that - it just said he designs goalie equipment, and some goalies use it. Write the article again, giving more detail of why he's significant, and references, and you'll have no trouble; but don't put it in till it's complete enough to make it clear the subject is notable. You may feel it should have been left to see whether it would be expanded on later, but an awful lot of two-line articles get put in that won't - see a discussion further up this talk page headed "Speedy deletion of new Baird Jones page" here for just this same discussion. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, I will try the article again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beijing goalie (talk • contribs) 20:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Martin Watts page

This page is of a real player who plays for Plymouth Argyle. Maybe you should do some research before just assuming! —Preceding unsigned comment added by T3wbaca2 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Why complain to me? I haven't done anything to that page. Click the "history" tab at the top of it, or look at the message about it on your talk page, to see who tagged it. JohnCD (talk) 19:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Intereffectuality

Hi, JohnCD! I've userfied User:JohnCD/Intereffectuality. Feel free to do as you will with that. Since it's not spam, you're not likely to get any flack if it lies around. Hope that helps - and happy editing! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

There ya go :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd say db-u1 it. As "vandalism and/or hoax", it's not likely to be missed. Unless you feel there's something in the history of the article that might prove useful some day? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

What did you want to check about my article on intereffectuality? Can I get a copy of the page and the talk page somehow for my own archives? When I am not working like crazy I may repost with more references to show that it is not a hoax. Right now as you might understand given the accusations that have been made, I am a bit dispirited. Thanks so much. --Chakira (talk) 01:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't expected the article to disappear so quickly, I wanted to read it once more; and after spending the afternoon speed-reading Reimagining Textuality to confirm that it made no mention of "intereffectuality", I was interested to check the page history to see which editor had put the book on the reference list (you, in fact). I see you have already got the article disinterred into your user space. By all means submit it again, if you can produce real references that will stand checking. Also, on a point of Wikipedia style, read the guideline Avoid weasel words: unsupported statements like "Some scholars point to... ", "some critics have said... " and "Famously, one proponent said... " are frowned on. Which scholars, what critics, which proponent? Where? When? The verifiability policy means that is the sort of thing references should be able to confirm. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New policy proposal that may be of interest

I'm tapping this message out to you because you were involved at the AfDs of Eve Carson or Lauren Burk. Following both of these heated debates, a new proposal has been made for a guideline to aid these contentious debates, which can be found at WP:N/CA. There is a page for comments at Wikipedia talk:Notability (criminal acts)/Opinions should you wish to make a comment. Thanks for your time, and apologies if this was not of interest! Fritzpoll (talk) 15:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll take a look. JohnCD (talk) 16:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] matt schroeder

Hello,

I am trying to use Wikipedia as a teaching tool for my 5th graders who are just starting to learn to use the Internet for research & my page keeps getting deleted, please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Comet580 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Create a page here User:Comet580/Sandbox with whatever you want. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 22:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a serious project to create an encyclopedia: the Matt Schroeder page I tagged was more or less nonsense, and there is no way we could let it stay in. If you just want to let your students practice typing something in, you could use this private sandbox page User:Comet580/Sandbox which Calvin 1998 has set up for you: let them put what they like in that, and no harm will be done. But they could also learn something useful by reading and understanding the Introduction and the Guide to creating your first article, and seeing if they could create something which actually meets the requirements to stay in Wikipedia. I'm afraid it's bed-time where I am, but user Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) has offered help if you need it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Comet580

~~This user did not make the edits that he's been warned for, see his contribs. I don't know what's going on, and most likely neither does he. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 23:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)~~ Never mind, apparently if a page you created is deleted, that edit is removed from your Special:Contributions page.

[edit] Dentyl pH

I contest your request for speedy deletion of Dentyl pH. Jomsborg (talk) 11:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

OK; it read like an ad to me, but you did just the right thing by putting {{hangon}} and your reasons, and I see that the admin who considered it agreed with you and has let the article stand. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] chester health and fitness

sorry i supose i dont no how to make this how it shld be to be able to be included in wikipedia. How do i delete the entry? Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Basicwebsite4u (talk • contribs) 16:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about deleting the page, it will soon be gone anyway - if you like to hurry it up, you could put {{db-author}} at the top (squiggly brackets not ordinary ones) which asks for it to be deleted. For advice on how to do things here, look at the links in the welcome paragraph at the top of your talk page. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Attacks in the article Alex sidor

I have responded, like you said, on my talk page. In case you missed the change, I put this here to remind you. I wish to get this matter behind me. --Freiberg, Let's talk!, contribs 21:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Himnisfier Syndrome

I saw the AfD and put in my two cents. Can't imagine it is anything but a hoax. Cheers. CiTrusD (talk) 10:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contact

I am rarely logged on en-wiki, so I just noticed your message. Sorry, but mainly, I am on cro-wiki, and please if you need me in future, just leave a message on my croatian page, ie. I have a link on my english one. Thanks and sorry. --Billy the lid (talk) 12:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC) (Armchoir on cro-wiki)

[edit] Check

JohnCD, please see my message for you on my talk page. Thanks. David.a.gelman (talk) 13:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Apologies for not picking it up sooner - I have only just adopted this strategy of watching recipients' talk page for a response to mine, and tend to forget. Fuller response on your talk page within a day. JohnCD (talk) 14:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] On Bagh (word)

Dear JohnCD, I do realise that Wikipedia is not a dictionary! If you had looked where the entry is linked to, you would have noticed that this entry relates to Bagh-e Ferdows (at least at present, since I intend to create entries on Bagh-e Jannat, referred to in Bagh-e Ferdows, and Bagh-e Rezvan). As I indicate in the latter entry, Ferdows already means Garden, or at least contains this notion already implicitly. The question arises as to the meaningfulness of such a word as Garden Garden, or something similar. It is for this very reason that I created the entry Bagh (word). I hope that this convinces you that I did not create the latter entry through being misguided as to the nature of Wikipedia. If I have indeed succeeded in convincing you of this, then may I hereby request you kindly to remove that hateful deletion tag from the entry? Kind regards, --BF 23:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

You are fully entitled to remove the PROD notice yourself, and I see you have. I am not entirely convinced by your argument - the difference is well described in WP:STUB: "A dictionary article is about a word or phrase; an encyclopedia article is about the subject denoted by that word or phrase" - and Bagh (word) is definitely about the word; but maybe the links you propose make it interesting enough... I will not pursue it to AfD, though someone else might. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 08:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear JohnCD, thank you for your kind message. Yes I did remove the tag once I realised that several hours after I wrote to you, nothing had happened. As for what various guidelines may or may not say, my style throughout my entire life has been that I never read such things as manuals, guidelines, etc., absolutely never. I only rely on what I consider to be common sense. The question that I asked myself before setting out to write that entry was: how many people coming to the English Wikipedia know the meaning of Bāgh, and of these how many of them have the 17 volumes of Dehkhoda in their possession to seek the meaning and the geographic spread of the word. Please note that Dehkhoda Dictionary is an encyclopaedia as well as a dictionary so that what one finds in Dehkhoda Dictionary often cannot be found in ordinary dictionaries. Aside from all these, if one looks at place-names in such countries as Pakistan and India (amongst others), one sees that many place-names carry the word Bāgh. So, in a sense the entry that I created serves a wide range of interests, rather than the interests of a small minority of people. I expect that in time the entry will be expanded by people who know the cultures and traditions of these other places more than I do and more than is described in Dehkhoda Dictionary. Rests me to thank you for your understanding. Kind regards, --BF 14:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Knocknobbler

...is back as Knocknobbler. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 15:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

So it is; and so is his spam add-on to Dog warden, which I have reverted again. Knocknobbler is not quite such blatant spam this time; may as well run its PROD-and-then-probably-AfD course, then if it comes back again it can be speedied G4. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The knocknobbler, I recall seeing the earlier spam version of the page, but could not recall who the creator was. I was just wondering how you determined that the user also created the previous version of the page. Is there another kind of log available which keeps a record of a user's contributions to a page which has since been deleted? Thanks! --- Taroaldo (talk) 17:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I remembered, because I saw and speedy-tagged the first version. Once a page has been deleted, the only way to check its history is to ask an admin to undelete it and its history into your user space for you to look at. If you have a suspicion about the creator, his talk page may show warnings about earlier versions, as in this case here. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I'm a bit sleep-deprived right now. When I looked at the page before, I must have read CobaltBlueTony's March 26 tag twice and missed the March 24 tag. Sorry for the trouble <sheepish grin>. Cheers. --- Taroaldo (talk) 18:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Christopher L Johnson_ Speedy Deletion

Please don't delete this. The reason's for my request are as follows:

1. I wrote this about myself, because i am hoping that my real parents will find me again 2. I want my it teacher to see this. 3. I want a publisher to see this and hopefully ask for a book deal, i just want to be a writer. 4. I Want people to like me, i want friends.

these are my only requests and you can delete it after 1 year i just want people to see it and hopefully then they will want to be my friends.

Thank you for you Co-operation Adark876 a.k.a Christopher L Johnson —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adark876 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, and I do sympathise with what you want to do, but that simply is not what Wikipedia is for. There are a lot of social networking sites like Myspace and Facebook where you can post notices about yourself and try to attract people's attention; but Wikipedia is not one of them, it is a serious project to create an encyclopedia, and we can only keep it that way by having clear rules about what subjects we allow in. For people, those rules are set out in the guideline on Notability (people). Have a look at Facebook or Myspace, or look at Wikipedia's article List_of_social_networking_websites - I had no idea there were so many. Good luck, JohnCD (talk) 22:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Reverting page blanking

Hi. Thanks for the advice on this. I wasn't too sure how I should deal with it. I'll keep it in mind for future reference and remove the user warning from his user talk page. Cheers Paul20070 (talk) 12:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please read, very urgent

Hello, I am looking to find for an old friend called Paige Livingstone, I was searching the internet and saw she had a wiki page, do you know her personally? My name is Reece Hanrahan, I am 16, and go to UCA in Middlesbrough, if you do know her, and know her MSN Hotmail address or MySpace, could you give it to me? I just want to talk to her because I havn't for ages My email is Reece_Hanrahan4eva@hotmail.com hit me back —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.10.123 (talk) 23:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know her. It seems there was an article with that name, but it has been deleted; it looks as if it was a nonsense article, so it probably wouldn't have helped you. If you do a Google search, there seems to be someone with that name who has a profile on Bebo - that might be your friend? JohnCD (talk) 09:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)