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[edit] April 2008

[edit] Lee Thomas Holden

He there. You inadvertantly warned CesareDunker (talk · contribs) about the speedy deletion tag, when the actual user who created it was Lee hldn (talk · contribs). FYI. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I did warn Lee hldn (talk · contribs) correctly; somehow I must have issued the same warning again to CesareDunker (talk · contribs). These db-persons flood in so fast... Thanks for sorting Cesare out. JohnCD (talk) 19:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] steve st. john

understood, please delete Steve St. John entry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radarhifi (talk • contribs) 21:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 16 Wit Mac Dre and 16 Wit Dre

Not sure of the notability, the the user seems to have created to identical articles. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 21:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Not sure why you're asking me? I steer clear of album/song articles, as I don't know much about that world, and as far as I can see such notability rules as we have are not much enforced. I guess one of these is a mistaken title - perhaps ask the author which he wants to keep? JohnCD (talk) 21:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Hadziluk

Thank you for pointing that out. I have deleted the page. Jon513 (talk) 14:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] sure thing

I will post constructive information and not vandalize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.179.36.108 (talk) 13:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Auteno.com

Auteno.com is a auction house like ebay, lauriz and hood.de and so i want to let all users to know something about auteno.com i am a user an buyer in ths auction house and everytime when i talk with freinds the say that they do not find information about this auction house. That is the reason i want to open an topic to discuss and pressent a other company like ebay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desichbinich (talk • contribs) 09:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an advertising service. The article is written in a promotional way and cites no independent reliable sources. Read the guidelines in the welcome paragraph on your talk page, particularly the Business' FAQ and the guidelines on Advertising and Conflict of interest. The article has a further problem - it is a direct copy of the company's web-site; for copyright reasons Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from web-sites - more detail in the copyright warning on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 10:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ben schumin

Get your nose out of my life —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodandhonestwhig (talk • contribs) 16:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flight Options

John, My first article (Flight Options) was deleted yesterday, I'm still a rookie at effectively using wiki. How can I adjust this article to get it up without it being tagged for deletion? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks -Simms —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmsimmers (talk • contribs) 14:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

There is a lot of guidance available, in fact a confusing amount. Good places to start are the Business' FAQ and the guidelines it will lead you to, particularly those on Advertising and Conflict of interest, and the guide to writing Your first article. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of BYU Ph.D. Prep track

Deletion of BYU Ph.D. Prep track

I admit that the original post to this page was not very good. I was planning on improving it. Here is an improved version of the Ph.D. prep track. The page was deleted because it was not considered "notable." I think it is "worthy of notice" and the American Accounting Association agrees. The Prep Track is being heralded as a potential solution to the critical shortage of accounting PhDs. As such, it is "worthy of notice." You will notice that a reliable source (the American Accounting Association gave the program an award (they are an independent organization from the program) and that it has been mentioned in their newsletter (see here. There is objective evidence concerning the program based on where graduates have gone and where they are now, and there is objective evidence of its existence (it is referred to on the Marriott School's webpage under the accounting program (see here) and by the awards and other metnions. Under the description of notable organizations, the prep track fits several of the criteria. It is not small. It is a non-profit organization that has a national/international scope (it has placed students in Spain). It has longevity--been in existence since 1994 informally and formally since 2000. It has received internaional recognition from the American Accounting Association.

Based on this evidence, the page is notable and deserving of an entry. Please unlock the page so I can include the text listed below.

BYU Accounting Ph.D. prep track is part of the masters of accountancy program designed to train prepare accounting students to enter into a Ph.D. program upon finishing their Master in Accountancy degree. As of 2008, accounting academia is suffering from a significant shortage of accounting professors and is projected to face even more significant shortages in the future.^[1] The BYU Ph.D. prep track has been recognized as one possible method for increasing the supply of accounting Ph.D.’s to lessen the effect of this shortage.

History of Ph.D. Prep Track

The Ph.D. prep track began unofficially in 1994 by BYU accounting faculty member Doug Prawitt. Doug noticed several students who had a desire to enter a Ph.D. program but had very little idea what earning a Ph.D. entailed. To better prepare these students, Doug suggested classes they take before entering their program and educated them on life as Ph.D. student. This early program served to help nine students prepare for accounting academia.

The program began in greater earnest between 2000 and 2001, as Doug required application to the program and more formally recruited students into the program. In 2002, seven students finished the program and entered Ph.D. programs. Thereafter, the program has placed between four and nine students each year into Ph.D. programs across the country.

Results of Ph.D. Prep Track

The Ph.D. Prep Track has been highly successful placing students into highly regarded accounting research institutions including: Arizona State University, Carnegie Mellon University, Cornell University, Duke University, Emory University, Indiana University, Michigan State University, Northwestern University, The Ohio State University, Stanford University, University of Arizona, University of Chicago, University of Georgia, University of Iowa, University of Michigan, University of North Carolina, University of Pennsylvania, University of Southern California, University of Texas, University of Utah, University of Washington^[2]. Individuals who have gone through the Ph.D. Prep Track and gone on to finish their Ph.D.s have likewise been successful in placing at highly regarded accounting research institutions^[3].

The Ph.D. Prep Track was recognized by the American Accounting Association with the prestigious 2007 Innovation in Accounting Education Award ^[4].

One of the benefits of the program is that graduates of the program are highly likely to continue in a Ph.D. program and not drop the program once it has started. Between 1994 and 2007, 51 students graduated from the program and entered a Ph.D. program. As of 2008, 49 of those students were still working towards the completion of a Ph.D. or had graduated and taken a job as an accounting professor.

External links

Information page about Ph.D. Prep Program at BYU

I'm afraid I can't unlock your page, because I am an ordinary editor on just the same footing as you. When I have time I help with "New Page Patrol", looking at newly arrived articles and flagging any that seem to need attention. When I saw yours, I tagged it as promotion and put on your user page a welcome message with useful links and an explanatory note. Then an administrator working down the list of tagged pages looked at it, agreed, and deleted it. I see from the deletion log that the page was created and deleted three times, and it was then "salted" - protected to prevent re-creation. You will need permission from an admin, perhaps one of the two who deleted it, before you can re-create the page.

Before you ask permission, I urge you to read carefully the Business' FAQ and the guidelines on Conflict of Interest, Neutral Point of View and Advertising to which it will point you. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an advertising service or even a notice-board. An admin will probably need to be convinced that your article will comply with the guidelines before he will allow you to re-create it.

One last point - when leaving a message on a talk page, it is useful to end it with four tilde characters ~~~~ - the system automatically converts them into a signature with time and date, so that the recipient knows who the message is from - like this: JohnCD (talk) 11:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Hiller credibility

You deleted my Steve Hiller wikipedia under section 997pi which totally not constitutional. As a member of the Martians, the band fool, Steve Hiller was very influencial. Your credibility as a member of the wikiNation is suspect. In conclusion, I leave you with a quote to ponder...

"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?", Derek Zoolander —Preceding unsigned comment added by L130115 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gabriel Levin

The page, wroten in that way, looks like a joke or a big mess. It is also the e-mail address and an e-mail content of the author ... Is it permitted ? I know that for "credits" it's used the talk page.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.18.159.132 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

The page needs improving, but it doesn't qualify for speedy deletion. I have tidied it up a bit and moved the "permissions" bit, which doesn't seem to me necessary, to the talk page so that it is preserved.

The acceptable reasons for speedy deletion are actually quite restricted - read WP:CSD. If you are putting a speedy tag on, it is best to use one of the standard ones, like {{db-person}} or {{db-spam}}; if you can't find one that fits, it probably means the page doesn't qualify for a speedy. Also, deletion should be a last resort, used only if there is no way an article can be improved to be useful - read WP:DELETE. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Post-transcriptional regulation

I removed the copyright violation information from this article and left just a stub. This is a major topic in genetics and molecular biology, and it is very surprising there is no article on the subject in Wikipedia already. I asked on the administrator noticeboard for an administrator to simply close this debate. Please just withdraw your request for AfD from the article so as not to spend any time discussing the issue. --Blechnic (talk) 00:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD already closed by the time I woke up this morning (I'm on UTC+1). The article didn't seem to me salvageable, and indeed it seems nothing but the title was. Perhaps you would look at the article 5' flanking region copied (with some modification) from the same source by one of the same authors. Can that also be saved? JohnCD (talk) 09:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brendon Burns

Can you please delete the prod. Brendon Burns is notable and is almost certain to win the Christchurch Central seat. I note that Nicky Wagner has an article even though she has stood for that seat on several occasions and lost. Bactoid (talk) 09:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

If you read the PROD notice you will see that you may remove the PROD template yourself "if you improve the article or otherwise object to its deletion for any reason." I would then probably nominate the article for deletion under the Articles for Deletion process. There are good reasons for the precedent in WP:BIO#Politicians that being a candidate does not confer notability (otherwise Wikipedia would become an election hoarding for every election). As far as Nicky Wagner's article goes, it says she holds a seat in Parliament; but anyway, read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. JohnCD (talk) 10:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Nicky Wagner holds a seat because she is on the party list as is Brendon Burns. He is guaranteed a seat even in the unlikely event he loses. I will most likely be removing the prod since a) I don't want to have to go through the process of putting the article back later in the year and b) it's a stub (ie. a work in progress). Bactoid (talk) 10:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mud Mud Ke Na Dekkh Mud Mud Ke

With your PROD of Mud Mud Ke Na Dekkh Mud Mud Ke, is it possible to go straight to AfD? I just get this funny feeling of Déjà vu thats all. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 12:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

It would certainly have been possible, but PhilKnight evidently had the same feeling of Déjà vu and has speedied it WP:CSD#G4. JohnCD (talk) 15:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, saw that soon after I left the message. I'm sure this happens all the time, but that was just a too weird of a title to forget so soon. Have a great weekend. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 00:50, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greta Wodele

I am disapointed to see my small contribution on Greta Wodele deleted. She is regularly on CSPAN. She is mentioned in the Wikipedia article on Washington Journal. I think a living person who appears rehgularly on a serious program like Washington Journal is worthy of mention.

I see from the Deletion log that articles with this title have been deleted twice before, but if you think you can show that she is notable according to Wikipedia's standards for entries about people (explained in Notability (people)), you are welcome to try again. If the article is to stay, you will need to include references from independent, reliable sources. There is more good advice in Why was my page deleted? and in the guide to creating Your first article. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted

It is deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael2346 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Bitti Babu

A tag has been placed on Bitti Babu requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 10:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I didn't actually create that page - I userfied the first version of it, put {{db-r2}} on the resulting redirect, and left a note for the originator Bitti007 (talk · contribs) to say that he could re-create it but should first read WP:BIO and WP:AUTO. He went ahead and over-wrote the redirect with his autobio. I have copied your speedy warning to his talk page. JohnCD (talk) 10:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted page

FYI Benedictitus is a real disease. Although i found it strange when i wikipedia searched your name all i came up with was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dooshbag —Preceding unsigned comment added by Damagedpanda (talk • contribs) 12:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nessesoryism

I replaced your 'prod' tag on this article with a speedy tag. The last line of the article says that this 'belief' has one follower, leading me to believe that the whole thing is a prank/nonsense. Tnxman307 (talk) 14:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Fine by me, if you can make it stick. I didn't think {{db-nocontext}} really fitted, and I have found some admins think that {{db-nonsense}} should be restricted to "lk'j8^er#!h%bgl*wjk" and the like, not anything where the words have a coherent meaning. I am thinking of proposing a new speedy category for things blatantly made up one day - neologisms, drinking games, joke religions - which have to be PRODded now. That would cover this nicely. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. There's the gibberish-type nonsense, and then there's the nonsense into which people actually put some thought. While commendable for creativity, it's still basically nonsense. If you do propose such a tag, let me know, as I would support it. Tnxman307 (talk) 15:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Sorry. Lack of notability established - delete okay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.212.161 (talk) 19:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May 2008

[edit] EBay hoax

I have protected your version until after the auction ends, at which point I will delete it. Thanks, Black Kite 23:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Speedy Category Proposal

I thrown in my two cents on your proposal for a new speedy category. Again, I think it's a good idea and at the very worst, you've at least put the thought into people's minds. Good luck! Tnxman307 (talk) 23:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] about poo2nty

i'm sorry that you think this is inappropriate.. but you don't know everything. it's true. please keep it on. i beg you mercy man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Collinson (talk • contribs) 14:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

this is your life isn't it? wanna meet? ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Collinson (talk • contribs) 14:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

At least I have better things to do than make up nonsense articles. JohnCD (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Undertow (webcomic)

I added the TWC and buzzcomic ranking, in both cases it is among the top 100, so this would seems notable enough.Wandalstouring (talk) 13:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, agreed - I tagged it because, as it was, it looked just like a hundred other self-promoting entries for new web-sites. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: User talk:SpecialRightTriangle‎ (attack warning)

Question, if I look at SpecialRightTriangle‎ (talk · contribs) I don't see the edit that you are talking about in your attack warning on his user page. According to his user contributions, he as only made one edit to Tom Hanks. What is the scoop? IP4240207xx (talk) 22:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

The attack was in the page Mr parsons which was deleted; once a page has been deleted, edits to it no longer appear in the user contribution record, though admins can still see them. JohnCD (talk) 08:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The vampric editor and Patrick Flanagin

I see Yes, two more. Did not see a block notice and confused one of the more recent socks with that one. User:The Limit Is Me and User:Lampireslayer69 appear to be socks of User:Lampireslayer666. This has been deleted 5 times now. I think I'll protect Patrick Flanagin, as blocking seems ineffectual. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Dloh cierekim 16:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Socks blocked and page protected. Thanks again. Cheers, Dloh cierekim 16:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello John CD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marquiseyancy (talk • contribs) 16:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism

Hi JohnCD. Sorry to meddle with your talk page, but I guess you didn't quite like all these slaughtered cat pictures lying around :) Greetings, Bakabaka (talk) 13:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Not at all, thanks, feel free to remove dead cats from my premises any time! I'm glad we've got that one blocked, even if only for 24 hrs, and his friend seems to have given up after uw-4. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hi just

put only official charts!!!!

go acharts.us...you will see violet hill —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.193.93.170 (talk) 15:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks!

		RfA: Many thanks
		Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] marrsball (speedy deletion)

sorry about that. Its actually got nothing to do with me at all. Someone mentioned it to me and I couldn't find i on wikipedia. So i thought i'd add a couple of lines. Didn't realise it was a problem. My bad.

But yeah, deletion is cool if its a problem.

Splooj (talk) 13:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Epicaricacy was not a content fork

Articles on distinct but related topics may well contain a significant amount of information in common with one another. This does not make either of the two articles a content fork. As an example, clearly Joséphine de Beauharnais will contain a significant amount of information also in Napoleon I of France, this does not make it a fork.

—Wikipedia:CFORK#Related articles

Idiot.151.197.116.67 (talk) 01:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE:NPP

thanks for the advice regarding speedy deletions.I'll be sure to check ou the links you gave me. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 15:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Articles

Should I go ahead and nominate the articles for speedy deletion? Since I'm the original author of them and want to have the articles deleted on good faith? (Also, to protect the "reputation" of the places named in the articles) T.W. (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Normally, the way to ask for your own article to be deleted is to blank it and put {{db-author}}, but in this case, since others have edited the article and the AfD debate is under way, I'm not sure that would be right. I suggest you leave each article, and the AfD notice, as they are, but right at the top add {{db-author}} and just under that {{comment|principal author requests deletion - see AfD debate}}. Then the admin who looks at it can see what's going on and decide what to do. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I've done just as you suggested. I hope this helps and I'm trully sorry about the whole situation and the confusion of it. I'm just deeply hurt at the hoax accusations most of all, and would rather have the articles deleted completely than their truth being questioned like that. Thanks again! T.W. (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] West Midlands Barbershop Harmony Club

I was trying to raise people's awareness, for thousands of people in the UK would be interested in Barbershop but there are no clubs listed with their own articles on here. I was planning to do this. If you give me chance, you will see that I am writing basic knowledge on clubs in the UK, just like their are on American Clubs.

Quite ironic, that you delete mine, but let Vocal Majority spread propaganda about theirs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barberman12 (talk • contribs) 17:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles have to meet Wikipedia's requirements, particularly: is the subject of enough general interest for an encyclopedia article? That is summed up in the word notability, and the requirements are explained in the guidelines Notability and Notability (music). Notice also that references are needed from independent reliable sources, and that if you are a member of the club you should be aware of the guidelines on Conflict of Interest. If you take all that into account, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to produce an acceptable article about the British barbershop scene. The guide to writing Your First Article is helpful. As regards Vocal Majority, their article seems to me to meet notability requirements, but anyway, read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Local artists

I would like to write about some local Hampton Roads artists. I'm not having any luck uploading images to these pages. Can you give me help?Donwatsonart (talk) 19:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

The first thing to realise is that Wikipedia does not accept articles about anyone or anything: subjects have to be of enough general interest for an encyclopedia article. The Wikipedia term for that is notability, and the requirements are explained in the Notability guideline and in more detailed ones such as Notability (people). The next thing that many new contributors have difficulty with is that Wikipedia does not publish original work - everything must be backed up by references from independent, reliable sources. The guide to writing Your First Article is a good source of advice, and so is The Five Pillars of Wikipedia. I would also recommend looking at some existing biographies of artists, to get a feel for what other people have done; if you look at WP:FA and WP:GA, the lists of "Featured Articles" and "Good Articles", for biographies you should find something to go on. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I have just now read your question again and see that it was about uploading images. I hope all the well-meant advice above will be useful, but for images see WP:IMAGE and WP:UPIMAGE. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Yes, I wans't quite sure how I was to do it (I saw User_talk:androo123) so I thought you had to put User_stub. Thank you for correcting my error. Androo123 (talk) 22:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] San Francisco Music Box

I am writing for more details regarding why the San Francisco music box page that was deleted. I am new to Wikipedia and as this is my first post I am not sure why it was deleted.

[edit] Deaths in 2029

A tag has been placed on Deaths in 2029, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} should not be placed on talk pages. Please remove it and place it on the content page. on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JohnCD (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2008 (UTC) The San Francisco Music Box company was founded in San Francisco in 1978. The water globes and music boxes the company carries are traditions and treasures that Americans still love to collect and purchase today. There is a lot of history involved in the company and many people across the United States still hold great interest in these items. If I have in some way misrepresented the information please indicate so. My attempt was to simply explain the history and story behind how the SF music box company was started and where and how the company still functions today, 30 years later.

I do not understand how this is blatant advertising and that of J.Crew and hundreds of other vendors that are shown in the encyclopedia are not?

Please advise, thank you.

Sfmusicbx (talk) 14:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

(reply on his user page)

Er, so why are you telling me about it you cretin? Fuck off please I'm very busy and important. Peetoor (talk) 21:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)