User talk:John.lechliter

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This user is a sock puppet of Acfei, and has been blocked indefinitely.
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[edit] The Forensic Examiner and related Spam

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This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent insertion of spam, commercial content, and/or links is prohibited under policy. Any further spamming may result in your account and/or your IP address being blocked from editing Wikipedia.
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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest. Thank you. --Hu12 (talk) 19:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why is The Forensic Examiner Journal link considered SPAM on a forensic science page?

The Forensic Examiner is the largest and most widely circulated journal dealing with forensic science. It is available nationwide in the United States in Barnes & Noble and Borders book stores.

It is far less commercial that Forensic Magazine, which is allowed to have a link in "Further Reading" on the Forensic Science page.

Why isn't it allowed to have a link? John.lechliter (talk) 14:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It has become apparent that your account is only being used for spamming inappropriate external links or self-promotion, so it has been blocked indefinitely. Wikipedia is NOT a "repository of links" or a "vehicle for advertising" and persistent spammers will also have their websites blacklisted.

--Hu12 (talk) 11:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

This is unfair. I simply added a link to a page on forensic science about an publication that involves forensic science. How is that SPAM? Why does another forensic science publication, less respected than The Examiner, get to have its own page on Wikipedia and its own links? The editor who has done this is not impartial.


Why would I be using my own name in my account if I am a "sock puppet"? Your own guidelines suggest creating a new account if your account has been blocked. I did nothing but add a "further reading" link to appropriate subject matter pages.John.lechliter (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No Reply from Wiki Editor Hu12

I asked valid questions, and Hu12 states on his talk page that he monitors conversations he starts on home pages, but still no reply.—Preceding unsigned comment added by John.lechliter (talk • contribs) 17:58, 28 May 2008.

[edit] Hu12, Copying and pasting rules is not a reply

The question is, why is a link to a forensic journal automatically considered SPAM when it is added to a forensic science page?

I am editor of the journal, yes. So I am not unbiased. But I used my own name as as my Wiki login. No attempt to conceal my identity was made. My previous account was clearly labeled ACFEI, so again, there was no attempt to conceal anything.

Our competitor, Forensic Magazine, is allowed to have a link and to have a Wiki page. That magazine is mostly advertising. I'd suspect that someone connected with Forensic Magazine added their link. If you look on the page, the creating account was "ViconPR". Obviously, that company was allowed to create its own page.

Hu12, I invite you to go to the Examiner's Web site, www.theforensicexaminer.com. Look at the articles, download free PDFs of past issues. If you think that Wikipedia users would not be served by having a link to the Examiner site listed in "Further Reading" on the Forensic Science page, then I will stop my protests.

I could easily go to another computer and set up another login, but I won't do that. I was genuinely trying to be helpful to Wikipedia. I understand your desire to protect Wikipedia from spammers, but I think that in this case you were too quick to label me a spammer. John.lechliter (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)