User talk:Johanneum

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[edit] Thank you for referencing your changes

Just wanted to say thank you for referencing your changes. It really helps everyone out when we put in verifiable content! joshbuddytalk 05:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent JW changes

I've noticed you've been making some changes to the JW page with regards to Central's recent changes. I would much rather critical views go into the critical section. Is that possible you think? If not, I will make the needed changes later. joshbuddytalk 22:49, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] JW's & creation

really like you wording in the sentence George 12:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversial Topics in JW's

I understand you've been having some struggles there lately. I noticed you recent edit summary "this is a referenced point. It should not be changed!". This is not an appropriate comment per se on wikipedia. No one owns an article, and everyone is free to edit any article. When people edit articles, we are to assume good faith. This comment both discounts good faith, and could potentially intimidate new users. I just thought I'd bring this to your attention. Happy editing! joshbuddytalk 14:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Reverting JW Controversy Article

I noticed that the Controversy Article is begining to receive a lot of attention again. I wanted to make sure that you are aware of the Three Revert Rule. Recently after reverting the Controversy article one of the editors was blocked because he inadvertently reverted the article more than three times in one day.

Please be aware that if you have already reverted the article three times during a 24 hour period, you may have to ask another editor to revert the vandalism or face a possible block. Just thought I might let you know before there was any trouble. Lucy 02:26, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jehovah's Witnesses and User:Klava76

Please inform User:Klava76 why his edit is wrong. I don't want to violate WP:3RR. - CobaltBlueTony 15:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversies regarding Jehovah's Witnesses

I like your edit, but I can see how someone could attack it. It does resemble original research. If you can find a source for it, or reference the principle in some other article so it can be stated definitively, I think you'll reaffirm this point much more solidly. - CobaltBlueTony 17:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citation

In response to your question "did we really need this reference?" on The Watchtower , I would say, "yea". Most JW's would know where to find this quote, but quoting things without citing the source is ... well, I wouldn't even quote the preamble to the U.S. Constitution without a citation even though most Americans should know what I'm quoting.

I think your edit is fine, if you want to remove the [citation needed] tag. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vap0rtranz (talk • contribs) 04:45, 25 June 2006

[edit] Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses

Need help with User:Truthwanted avoiding WP:3RR by logging out to revert. - CobaltBlueTony 19:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] editsummary Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses

As annoying as Truthwanted (talk · contribs) edits might be to you, his edits technically do not constitute vandalizm in its strictest sense. In the interrest of civility it would be wise if you were to refrain from using that expression in an editsummary in this case. Agathoclea 19:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

He's baaaaaaaaaaaaack. - CobaltBlueTony 18:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JW Controversies

Johanneum, you have made some recent changes to the above article. In it, you have changed a number of statements and left the references the same. Please be aware that this can be misleading, and if you are going to change anything an appropriate reference should be supplied.

Also, it would be appreciated if you could make your changes all at once, rather than having a dozen or more edits in a row which tends to clog up the history page and make changes more difficult to compare. Especially when you make several minor changes to the same sentence. Thanks. BenC7 00:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Witnesses Believe in Deity of Christ?

Your last edit was unclear. I've known Witnesses to say they believe in the "divinity" of Christ before but not the "Deity" of Christ. I didn't understand your edit summary. Could you explain more? Thanks. Dtbrown 14:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your encouragement

I really don't like inundating the articles with all that information like that, but I don't see how to get around it. If these common criticisms against Witnesses are to find a home at Wikipedia then I feel the WTS viewpoint, and scholarly supporters, needs to be represented as well. Basically I just provided the information and if the more active editors choose to keep the criticisms/controversies then hopefully the information I have provided will be integrated into the article as well. I usually don't have the time anymore for Wikipedia, but tonight I really didn't like what I was reading, I couldn't let it go uncontested. Duffer 13:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Controversies regarding Jehovah's Witnesses

Good work! George 12:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll second that. - CobaltBlueTony 13:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JW's#blood

Might need some help with this Ben doesn't like my addition.George 01:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki-addiction

Johanneum, your wikiaddiction is seen by your editing from a pocket PC! I am aghast! - CobaltBlueTony 16:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] to add crtitics/controversy to template box or not

Please read carefully the dialog at Template talk:Jehovah's Witnesses and weigh in. It would be very much appreciated.

There is an odd trend I see, too, with BenC7's proposals to delete some of the article initailly set up to pull much of the critical articles out of body of the the main/related article(s). Thoughts on my talk page at your leisure would be most welcome. - CobaltBlueTony 14:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversies regarding Jehovah's Witnesses

You should references the literature the scripture is used in, in context to the idea preferrably, and not the scripture directly, as it is open to interpretation by other users/readers. - CobaltBlueTony 20:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] October 13, 2006

Don't we have a policy/practice/habit of NOT using e-watchman for links? Check Timothy Kline's edit. - CobaltBlueTony 17:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to the JW page

You seem to be deleting validly cited and referenced work on this page. I would suggest that when you make an edit, to not blindly deleted information that has been researched and reference, but to edit or update the information and place other's work where it may be more of a proper fit in relation to the article. Your example of just deleting information demonstrates a lack of respect for others' work and does not lend credibility to your own. - Protector of the Truth 14:31, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The World Almanac and Book of Fact

The reference has no page number, no information on which edition. I just don't know what use that reference serves. joshbuddy, talk 01:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is your feeling on the offered compromise?

What is your thoughts on the offered compromise regarding footnoting "Christisn" with the Almanac reference and "using self-identification"? Dtbrown 20:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation from "Great Pyramid Passages"

I wanted to link the citation you gave from Great Pyramid Passages to the online source [1] but could not find it. I have both volumes and could not find it in my copy. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. It most likely does. Could you check your sources again to verify the exact page references? Once you have it, I'd like to link it to the online source. Thanks! Dtbrown 18:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] JW are not Christians.

JW are not Christians. Christians believe Jesus Christ is Son of God and actually God. After my research I did not find we can include JW to Category:Christian denominations.--RIH-V 22:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

The only reason I can think of for this user to take this lying down is that it is a sockpuppet made specifically to do just that. This type of tactic seems to be from rabid anti-Jehovah's-witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses call themseleves Christians, they believe in Jesus just as other Christians do, but they don't consider Jesus to be God, with valid reason, as many other "Christian" denominations do as well:(copied from discussion)
Jesus prays to God, John 17: 1-3
has faith in God, Hebrews 2:17, 18,Hebrews 3:2
is a Servant of God, Acts 3:13; 4:27,30
does not know things God knows, Mark 13:32; Rev1:1
holy spirit does not know either is taught by the Father, John 8:27
worships God, John 4:22
calls God his God Rev 3:12
is in subjection to God, 1 Cor 15: 28
has God for his head, 1 Cor 11:1
is exalted by God, Acts 5:31; Phil 2:9
is given authority by God, John 17:2,3
is given life by the Father, John 6:57; John 5:26
is given kingship by God, Luke 1:32,33
is given judgment by the Father, John 5:27; Acts 10:42
is given lordship by God, Acts 2:36
has reverent submission, fear, of God Hebrews 5:7-10
was spoken to directly by God with others present, John 12:29
and is made high priest by God Hebrews 5:10.
Trinitarians base their beliefs on the scizophrenic (talking to himself?) lies others have spoon fed them:
If you look at the original greek rendition of John 1:1 you will see that Ho Theon and theos are what is really there,
but are deceptively translated God for both.
GabrielVelasquez (talk) 08:27, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Jehovah-jireh

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[edit] Jehovah's Witnesses persecution under nazis

The translation of the 'Declaration' is a great addition. However, I think it should be moved to the Nazi Era or Concentration Camp sections. --Editor2020 (talk) 01:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nicholas of Cusa

Greetings!

On 04:27, 26 April 2006 you made a major update to Unfulfilled historical predictions by Christians (now under a revised title), including the claim that Nicholas of Cusa predicted the end of the world in 1700. Some time ago this was removed for lack of citation, whoever did it left the introductory sentence describing Nicholas. Can you restore the claim with a citation? If not maybe delete the other sentence which now serves no purpose. PaddyLeahy (talk) 22:07, 4 May 2008 (UTC)