Talk:Johnstown, Pennsylvania
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[edit] Is Windber a suburb of Johnstown?
To Darthgriz98 Griz, This is my first attempt ever to use a talk page. I did see that earlier today you removed an entry of mine regarding Alan Freed and Johnnie Weismuller from the Johnstown page, as you believe Windber is not a suburb of Johnstown. I do understand your point that Windber lies across a county line from Johnstown. Please do know that the United States Census Bureau defines Johnstown's metropolitan area to include both Somerset and Cambria Counties. So by the stardard definition used by all geographers, Windber is a suburb of Johnstown, as are other Somerset County towns such as Davidsville, Jerome, Paint and Benscreek. I have worked very hard on the Johnstown Wikipedia entry in the last two weeks. I am documenting all my entries to ensure accuracy. I would be glad to share with you any particular citation that interests you. If you do have any questions, please let me know. Thanks. user: Hattanguy 1204am edt 6/6/06.
- Responce is left on your talk page. Darthgriz98 21:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- There is a distinction between what lies in or happened within the current physical boundaries of the city of Johnstown, and the metro area, much of which uses "Johnstown" as their postal mailing address - but let's not get too picky. If there's something like UPJ, it's not the University of Pittsburgh at Richland Township - it's called Johnstown. I think it should be in the article, with a disclaimer that it lies in the suburb of Richland Twp. The Rolling Mills Mine disaster was in fact in the city limits - consult Topozone to see that the hillside is in the city, only the Inclined Plane is in Westmont. So let's not get too picky and exclude useful info - let's put it in and mention if things are in the suburbs.
As far as Windber - I would not consider it a suburb. The Johnstown area has grown over the past 100 years so that now there is one continuous stretch of development, but when Windber was established it was much further away from the Johnstown metro area, and has always had it's own identity.Blcartwright 23:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- As I said, if it has the Johnstown mailing code or is in the imediate area, it is Johnstown, Windber has never been considered a part of Johnstown, I ment no harm when I took out the two gentlemen from Windber, I never ment that to be a personal attack against the editor placeing them in. I live here and grew up in the area, and have been to Windber many times before. I also know our mailing codes are very different and that Windber, Jerome, and so on arn't in Johnstown. But Richland and Westmont and probably some parts of Somerset are in Johnstown. Darthgriz98 02:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- THen we are in agreement. I think we could add a paragraph on the "Greater Johnstown Area" which list those things in places such as Westmont or Richland, but that most people think of as "Johnstown". I already added a map shwoing the wards and neighborhoods, as well as the location of the surrounding boroughs and townshios. I would like to add a table to the demographics which would tabulate the suburban population, and explain the interaction between the center city and the suburbs, along with the population shifts.
[edit] People from Johnstown
Who was the first man to die in the Vietnam War? There is a plaque up for him downtown and he was from Johnstown. Darthgriz98 21:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pittsburgh Tri-State Area?
What I remember from growing up in Johnstown was that Pittsburgh might as well have been on the other side of the planet. Just driving to Greensburg was an exotic experience. Surely Johnstown isn't really considered part of the Tri-State metro area by anyone who's actually familiar with the Johnstown Mentality? OscarTheCat 00:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Ha, Pittsburgh is like 2 hours away if you go the speed limit, and Johnstown is like podunk compared to the burgh, so I have no idea. I can look into it if I get some time though. Darthgriz98 00:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Oddities in page display for this article
Somehow, one or both of the tables for radio and TV stations (code {{Johnstown Radio}} and {{Johnstown/Altoona TV}} have caused all subsequent text to appear in a small font. Furthermore, the whole city is inexplicably placed in the category Category:Television stations in Johnstown/Altoona, although the code does not seem to in the article itself. --orlady 15:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Problem has been fixed. Thanks to whoever did it! --orlady 22:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Metro area definition
FTR: Link to list of metro areas is http://www.census.gov/population/estimates/metro-city/03mfips.txt --orlady 22:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Concerning Allan Freed and Windber
Windber, PA is a separate town than Johnstown [1], although it is a common misconception that it is a part of the city, it has a completely different area code and is in a different county with different city boundaries as shown in the link above. The above link shows that Windber is it's own city. Windber was created as a mining project, of the Ber-Wind mining Co., that became its own town, I can find a link on this if you would like. But the Allan Freed website has also made this mistake by saying he was born in Johnstown. Darthgriz98 15:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] City Population figure might be wrong
Sorry, don't mean to be picky, but Johnstown's city population might be a little inaccurate. According to the US Census Bureau website, the 2000 population was 23,906. The 2006 population just for added info. is 22,269. Or does the city conduct its own census/estimates? Anyway, my link to the US Census is http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFPopulation?_event=ChangeGeoContext&geo_id=16000US4238288&_geoContext=&_street=&_county=johnstown&_cityTown=johnstown&_state=&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010&_submenuId=population_0&ds_name=null&_ci_nbr=null&qr_name=null®=null%3Anull&_keyword=&_industry= Vpuliva 07:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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