Talk:Johnathon Robert Madden

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[edit] Expansion needed

I think I've covered the basic story. However, I think there are some encyclopaedic details I haven't mentioned for lack of adequate references, e.g. the outcome of the first trial. Any further notable details are welcome. --Saforrest 17:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

The name is spelled Johnathan, and I wrote a stub article called Johnathan Madden yesterday. Maybe the thing to do is to add the content from this article to Johnathan Madden and then propose Johnathon Madden for deletion. --Rrburke 22:20, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

The name is spelled "Johnathon", with an "o". This is the name given in every one of the recent media reports listed in the article, as well as the name used in the URL for the memorial website created by Johnathon's mother. The "a" spelling is definitely what was used during the trial under the publication ban, but is not the correct spelling of his first name.

See for example this CBC story [1] and note the various spellings:

Johnathon Madden, had previously been known in the public eye only as "Johnathan."

So, I propose the reverse: we incorporate the content from Johnathan Madden into this article. We should maybe also mention the spelling issue somewhere, because I honestly didn't notice the difference when writing the article. --Saforrest 23:17, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motive?

Why was he murdered by his brother? What was the backstory? Was he harassing his brother, so his brother fought back? Was his brother jealous of something? etc.--Sonjaaa 19:32, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

He claimed, I believe, that he had been physically abused by his stepfather. The particular reason for the animus against the brother I don't know. The psychiatric consensus seems to be that he is a sociopath, and had a history of (less, of course) violent outbursts. He had previously made threats, including death threats, against other people, so I don't think the brother or family were the sole objects of his anger. I recall there was a rumour the police had discovered a "hit list" after the murder and that at least one person was offered police protection between the time of the murder and the arrests. I remember East York Collegiate Institute, which, I believe, Kevin Madden attended, was supposedly locked down and searched by police the following day, and a student or students thought to be in possible danger removed from class by the police. I can't recall now whether these were news reports or just neighbourhood rumours (I live a few blocks away from EYCI). I also feel like I read in news reports in 2003 that Kevin Madden was in therapy at the time of the murder, or had been previously. --Rrburke 03:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)