Talk:John Tavares (ice hockey)

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Flibirigit 15:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To Portuguese or not to Portuguese

I noticed that the Category:Portuguese Canadians tag has been added to this article a few times, and reverted as unsourced. I figured I'd do some investigating. A rather time-consuming google-search yielded the following two hits: The Canadian National Congress gave an award to John Tavares (lacrosse player) who is the uncle of this John Tavares. The New York Daily News has an article stating the lacrosse playing John Tavares "is of Portuguese descent". I did find a lot of blogs, and message board posts referring to the hockey John Tavares as Portuguese, but those sources aren't encyclopedia quality. Anyway, that's what I came up with ColtsScore 15:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Here is the article I found. [1] I can't see anything in it. Maybe there is more in the version you have to pay for. I suspect the name is Portuguese descent. But I can't prove anything. Flibirigit 16:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, I'm not sure what happened with the New York Daily News story ... I thought it was an old story, but maybe it was newer and has now been archived. Anyway, the Canadian National Congress link still works (scroll down to the LUSO-CANADIANS OF DISTINCTION section). Still though, that's about Uncle John Tavares. I'm thinking if any ethnicity aside from "Canadian" was really important, there would be more mention of it somewhere. ColtsScore 12:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
If the kid was jewish and the tag "jewish canadian" was added and unsourced, it would be ok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.43.148.227 (talk • contribs)
Actually, no. That would have to be referenced too. Flibirigit 05:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I just reverted an edit to this article's opening where "and both are of Portuguese descent" was added to the sentence about lacrosse JT being this JT's uncle. I've never been able to find any articles or sources about this JT that refer to him being Portuguese -- the 2 references given for the edit were the same 2 about his uncle that are listed above. I only originally found them after an extensive web-search through obscure links. I believe if JT's Portuguese descent was an important part of his identity, it would be cited somewhere, in one of the many articles and profiles written about him. ColtsScore 23:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Found an article to use for citation for his Portuguese-Canadian background from Hockey's future. Nhl4hamilton (talk) 13:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the new source, but it does not say Tavares speaks Portuguese fluently. Flibirigit (talk) 13:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Not a problem. Thanks. Nhl4hamilton (talk) 08:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal life

I am debating whether or not "Top hockey prospects" should have an article section such as "Peronal life," adequately referenced of course. In the case of Tavares, it could include his parents Joe and Sarah, and his off season lacrosse accomplisments. Any thoughts? Flibirigit 09:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I think a 'personal life' section for this article would be a great idea. It's a whole lot easier to have a really interesting article about a player when info gets added over time. For example, this article talks about how he grew up playing hockey on Sam Gagner's backyard rink. A lot of news articles mention interesting details that may not be included later on in biographies or profiles. Those are the things that make wiki-articles more interesting to read, in my opinion. ColtsScore 04:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Good find. I'm looking for more on his lacrosse background. Flibirigit 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Development Model

You make reference to the Canadian Development Model and the exceptional players status as if the Canadian Hockey League make the decision to allow a player to play in the CHL. From what I understand the Branch in which the player plays makes the decision. That is just my interpretation. I would also like you to take a look at Canadian Development Model. I wrote it but it still needs some extra information as well as improved formatting. Thanks, 69.156.124.45 05:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I have posted this new article to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey for review. Thanks. Flibirigit 15:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)