Talk:John Ringo
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[edit] Biographical Data
I'd like to see someone qualified add some brief personal information: birthday, divorced, two daughters, partner Miriam Sloan, etc. --Lumsden 23:21, 22 Feb 2007 (UTC)
[edit] dab
Should someone write up, and differentiate from, cowboy/gunfighter John Peters Ringo? FZ 21:29, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
And Ringo Starr, which takes the Ringo page for redirect. I guess Ringo should be a disambiguation page, and all ringos should have an italic with if you are looking for x_ringo_x, the X_proffesion, you should see interlink. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 10:37, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- done a disamb for ringo --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 14:26, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Born: 3/22/63 Miami-Dade, FL.
Father: William Ringo Mother: Jane Ringo Siblings: Six Position: Youngest by nine years
Lived: Florida, Georgia, Greece, Iran, Switzerland
Visited: Jordan, Israel, Egypt, Cyprus, Greece, Italy, France, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Denmark, Lichtenstein, Holland, England, Ireland, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong (still a colony), Japan, Bahamas, Canada.
(Not sure if that adds up to 23 or not. The 23 number was from a long time ago.)
Military Service: 4 years 82nd Airborne Division, (83-87) 11C1P, 1-508th,3/505th Parachute Infantry Regiment. 2 years FLANG. Countries Visited: US, Panama, Egypt, Germany, Grenada (briefly). CIB, Parachute Wings, Good Conduct Medal, Green Hornet, Grenada Service Medal, Desert Storm medal, Cold War Medal, National Service Medal.
Higher Education: Associates Degree
Secondary civilian qualifications: Advanced SCUBA Diver, Cave Diver
Hobbies: Diving, rock climbing (used to, shoulder's pretty much gone), fishing, reading.
Percentage income from writing: 100%
Favorite Author: Robert Heinlein
Favorite Historical Characters: Scipio Africanus, William Slim
Favorite Poet: Rudyard Kipling
Favorite Poem: The Ballad of Bo Da Thone
Favorite Band: Cruxshadows
Happy Place: The Gulf Stream
Country of Residence: US
Personal Quote:
I believe in what I fight for And I have paid for it with pain I am here because my contributions May help turn this fate away
And all who stood by and did nothing Who are they to criticize? The sacrifices of others Our blood has bought their lives
Cruxshadows Eye of the Storm
Not sure about 'verification.' Lost my old passport many moons ago.
John Ringo 74.234.216.70 09:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
If this is all on your website or your myspace page thats all you need for verification sir. and I'm willing to add all this. my favorite is dragonfly. and i read a deeper blue cover to cover. only moved to flip the pages. I live in central Florida, had my house damaged in "looking glass" in the first five pages. My father out in lake county bought a larger rifle just "in case" tavares needed it. He is rather ill at the moment, your books help a lot. We think you're the best thing since drake and alois. Towers84 07:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Did this guy just update his own wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synx111 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think John Ringo edits here, but User:LadyGothiq is his girlfriend. Videmus Omnia Talk 22:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I goaded and John wrote out his Bio for Wiki and posted it on his own. So if there is anything else you would like to know, please let me know. (I've been looking for an excuse to bat my eyes.) User talk:LadyGothiq —Preceding comment was added at 13:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually I added it to the main page, copied it from here though, and I dont think there is any rule against updated your own page within guidelines. Just don't pull a bluemarine/matt sanchez... of course john isn't nearly controversial enough to make that worth while.Towers84 05:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] views
What "outspoken views" is he known for?
- Militarism, nationalism, the typical stuff you see from most military SF authors.
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- His works are very pro-US, and exceedingly optomistic as regards to what current technology can do in face of alien threats.... (like the Posleen books, and Von Neumann's War... his rather less than realistic CAS (combat armor suits) are also a bit grating)
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- In the Posleen books, he seems to indicate that there's a northern limit to Posleen advance, but says that the US is the only country able to hold its own, but within the books, he mentions that Canada should be able to hold its own as an aside (referencing a nice vacation in Montreal)... so it's like all northern and island based countries are just so much chopped liver to be ignored... (Canada, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Iceland, etc...) This "snowline" would also seem to indicate that most of Russia, Korea, and northern China should be safe... but his history of war does not show this...
a few of his books where extremely blunt and rude about europe. In the Posleen books Europe basically gets butchered in a month, and china nukes itself. Effectivly only the US can stop the enemy onslaught. In Ghost he took it up a notch with basically stating how the Elite commandoes of the French, Germans, English etc were shit and how one single american commando did everything. Recently on his own website he took a crap on how dumb and inefficient europeans are and how they are jelous of Americans and how they top us at everything. As you might guess that kind of ruined the mood for a lot of europeans and I guess thats where the extreme views comes from. I have not read a John Ringo book since Hell's Faire its hard to find his books here in Europe.
One book got a lot of flak on Amazon about his extremely conservative views. And he posted about it on his website. In all honestly I have talked to John and know he is a nice guy but I think when he gets angry he says things the wrong way.
here are some reviews that basically paint the picture
Here is John his view on Europeans:
http://www.johnringo.com/Abyss/AntiA.asp
this is what people basically are talking about.
Blitz
[edit] Please help know what you would like.
This is Miriam Sloan aka LadyGothiq and John Ringo's girlfriend. If you guys will help me compile of information you would like, I will glue John down and we will update this page with things you would like to know. Also, please let me know what photo's would be helpful.
Thank-you, LadyGothiq
- That's a nice offer. Make sure the info complies with WP:RS rules, though. DreamGuy 18:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I like the photo from his web site with the tux the cigar and you. I hope I'm remembering that correctly. Towers84 07:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tone
The tone of this article seems well below the usual standards of Wikipedia. As example:
- "an American science fiction author who writes full time": writers who are suitably noteworthy for entry in Wikipedia are typically assumed to write full-time. A note is usually included for writers who earn their primary income through other means (Kafka for example). - "has had several NYT best sellers": this should include examples, or something more quantifiable than "several". - the entire biography section is formatted more like a CV than an encyclopedia. Much of the information included is irrelevant to the article (number of siblings, parents' names, etc). Did Mr Ringo edit his own Wikipedia entry? Regardless, sentences like "rock climbing (used to, shoulder's pretty much gone)" are not nearly to the standard required from a Wikipedia article. - "much like Tom Clancy's works with less politics and a closer to the ground level and action focus" and similar commentaries are not nearly suitable for the standards of Wikipedia.
In general the article is a mess, and could use a complete overhaul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.10.26 (talk) 08:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
