Talk:John Paul Morrison

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Wikipedian An individual covered by or significantly related to this article, John Paul Morrison, has edited Wikipedia as
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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 3 December 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

[edit] Dated PROD

I have removed the dated PROD, but am open to having AFD attached. My reasoning for not wishing to see this article deleted is as follows:

- Flow-based programming (which I discovered/invented some 30 years ago) is notable, and is gaining more and more attention world-wide - check Google

- My father, a famous writer and publisher, is notable, and has an article about him on WP. I am mentioned in that article, as is my mother, who was an artist, and now has her own article. My god-mother is also notable!

- I am also an Old Etonian, Old Dragon and Cambridge anthropologist.

- In June 2006, I received a letter from one Michelle Kinney, stating "I would think, by those guidelines that both articles would meet the criteria for inclusion.", referring to the one on Flow-based programming and this one. She also says "Hopefully, a reader interested in your work will come along in time and add an article about you."

However, by the arcane rules of WP, I am not allowed to write an article about myself. So I waited, and waited, and waited. Eventually the distinguished IBM architect, Denis Garneau, created the article on myself - I simply extended it a bit. I believe the article is factual, and in the 3rd person as required. It is not here to advance the contributor - in fact, my book is out of print - but to act as a nexus for several notable topics.

If you guys wish to open up this discussion to WP at large, I shall be interested to see what arguments people come up with. Alternatively, perhaps someone could suggest ways to improve the article, or make the changes themselves...

By the way, the tag "The subject of this article, John Paul Morrison, has edited Wikipedia as Jpaulm (talk · contribs)" was added precisely because of this concern - surely this should be sufficient to take care of the WP:AUTO concern. Jpaulm 01:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I looked at the reasoning for deletion by cause of WP:AUTO and they are clearly not valid in this case. WP:AUTO wishes to protect against three things. 1. bias. There are only facts on this page. 2. Unverifiable information. This does not apply either as J. Paul's work and other history can be verified. There are even references and other wikipedia pages that confirm this info. 3. No original research. This one really does not apply. The first paragraph is confirmed by two other wikipedia articles. The second and third paragraphs are verifiable. And the last paragraph is sourced. The request for deletion based on WP:AUTO is unfounded in this case and I would have written an article myself had I known there wasn't one already. BTW, there are at least three other known wikipedia pages that link to this one. Let's make sure we have real issues before destroying other articles including this one. -Cleo 142.167.93.91 01:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More references citing "Flow-based programming"

  • Kauler, Barry (1999). Flow Design for Embedded Systems, 2nd Edition. R&D Books/Miller Freeman. ISBN 0-87930-555-X. 

Jpaulm 00:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Primary sources tag

There are a large number of independent references in the article on Flow-Based Programming. Should they be copied into this article, and if so could someone do it, and perhaps also remove this tag? TIA Jpaulm 01:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)