Talk:John Miller Andrews

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The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland [1] records his name as "John Millar Andrews". Which is right? Miller or Millar? -- The Anome 21:20, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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  • Miller: 42
  • Millar: 16

No clear winner. -- The Anome 21:22, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure it's Miller, not Millar. He is thus in 'Parliamentary Election Results in Ireland' which presumably derives from his application forms to be a candidate for Stormont. Dbiv 14:09, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] John Miller Andrews

John Miller Andrews was named after his mother's uncle - John Miller of Comber (1795-1883).

The spelling of his middle name as "Millar" is therefore inaccurate.

Whereas my maternal grand-mother was Mollie Millar from Downpatrick and her paternal aunt was married to John Andrews Snr. This obviously "muddies the water" in that John's mother converted from Catholicism in order to marry John Andrews Snr.

John Jnr. was given the double surname "Millar-Andrews" out of respect for his mother and to this day my family still use the hyphen to designate this respect.

In addition, "Millar" vs. "Miller", could be simply a matter of religious designation but this is conjecture.

I do not recall any mention of John Millar/Miller from Comber as my maternal grand-mother's family resided in Downpatrick having come originally from Waterford. That does not mean that nobody from the family moved to Comber but being Catholic I would tend to query such a move.

Those members of the Millar family to whom I am related, arrived back in Downpatrick from India where my Great-Grand-father had been an officer with the RIR. The family relocated to Downpatrick as he, my Great-Grand-father, was re-located to Ballykinler? Army Camp.

His daughter Mollie (my grand mother), a cousin of John Millar-Andrews, was a School Teacher who taught in the Convent School in St. Patrick's Avenue. She married a sculptor Hugh? Mullan and they went to live in Waterford where he was responsible for most of the statues in the RC Cathedral. He died, "of-the-dust" as it was called then and my Grand-mother returned to Downpatrick via. Comber where she stayed for a period with her Aunt. Upon returning to Downpatrick she met and married my grand-father (William Keenan from Cathedral View in Armagh) who was also an officer in Ballykinler Army Camp and John Jnr. was one of those who was an usher at this weeding in St. Patrick's Church (RC), St. Patrick’s Avenue, Downpatrick.

Can the title of this entry be ammended?

From the London Gazette for 21 May 1943:

CENTRAL CHANCERY OF THE ORDERS OF KNIGHTHOOD.
St. James's Palace, S.W.1, 21st May, 1943.
The KING has been graciously pleased to make the following appointment to the Order of the Companions of Honour: —
To be a Member of the Order.
The Right Honourable John Miller Andrews, M.P.

Hope this helps matters. Proteus (Talk) 13:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Surely we should move the article name then?--Couter-revolutionary 16:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Could this article not be expaded. He was the Prime Minister of Northern Ireland, surely we could include more about his education, family &c. --Couter-revolutionary 13:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)