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  • Not as good as a good article, with too many headings; which should be cut down and created with sub-headings. #Quotes should be moved to Wikiquote, except his most famous quote; #Statists should be cited; per WP:MOSHEAD adjectives and the like "The final" should be remved, in place of (in this example) "Final." Iolakana•T 12:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Article style

Too many headings, and too many paragraphs within those headings (freakin' every sentence gets it's own line).

Yea I know, its terrible isn't it. Seriously - I don't know how you cope. Would you like me to call the Samaritans for you? Jeez...if only I had as few things to worry about.
You cannot be serious. That's what he says.
Johnny is too good!

[edit] kids

"He has six children (three with O'Neal, two with Smyth, and one from Smyth's previous marriage to rock star Richard Hell). " Clearly this means he only has five children.

No... 3 + 2 + 1 = 6. Iolakana•T 12:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
The question then is, did he legally adopt Smyth's child from the previous marriage or does he publically refer to the child as his? If not, depending on the state the divorces/marriages occured and/or he resides in he may legally only have 5 children. If so, then yes it should be stated as 6 children. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.132.156.26 (talk) 02:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC).
Shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere in this article that Tom Thacker form punk rock band GOB is one of McEnroe's sons? [The Spooky One] | [t c r] 04:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Is the pic in the box the best Wikipedia can do? I think this image could be heavily improved.

[edit] First endorssment deal

M. signed his first endorsement with Sergio Tacchini, not Nike. He mentions this in his "You can not be serious" book, and also Tacchini's logo is on his tennis shirt in all photos from this period (till 1985) Levg-en 18:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki links

Please also check the numbers 84 and 70. The fans claim that these numbers are 77 and 77. et:John McEnroe Avjoska 19:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] McEnreOne of the first endorsement deals in tennis

"McEnroe signed one of the first professional endorsement deals in tennis with Sergio Tacchini in 1978."

Hardly.

Borg with Fila
Connors with his own brand of clothes and shoes
Stan Smith with Adidas
Rod Laver with Adidas
Ilie Nastase with Adidas
Arthur Ashe with Head
Jack Kramer with Wilson
Fred Perry with, um, Fred Perry
Pretty much everybody with LaCoste at some point
Lots of others with their names on racquets

and on and on and on.

As far as the business of plastering logos all over a tennis player goes, Borg was the real trailblazer. However, virtually every pro before and after Mc was paid to wear what ever clothes they had on their backs and swing what ever racquet was in their hand.

Arguably McEnroe's deal with Nike was significant because it set the pattern for Nike's building product lines and advertising around an athelete's literal and figurative "image" that culminated with Jordan. It's just silly to say that Mc's deal with Tacchini was some sort of landmark though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 161.185.1.100 (talk) 19:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC).


regarding his doubles grand slam titles: he won the 1989 US open with Mark Woodforde, NOT Todd Woodbridge.

I think the comment on his announcing understates the quality of his commentary--which is about as good as anything of its kind, any sport IMHO. A New Yorker article a few years ago provided more detail on his doubles play, which was apparently beyond compare as well. It had some quotes of his about how he sees the angles. Sculler71 18:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC)sculler71

[edit] Mars Bar Commercial

John McEnroe has been appearing in this Mars bar commercial recently in Australia. It splices old footage of him with, I think Nadal.

But for the life of me I cannot understand what is supposed to be happening in that ad.

Someone should add it to the page, and then maybe explain it too, because I am SO lost on this one.

[edit] 4-men invitational tournaments

Hi everybody (Feardes, Jeffreyneave and all others) !!!

1979: Montpellier (4-men invitational), Perth

1980: Bruxelles (Brussels) (4-men invitational)

1981: Rome (4-men invitational)

1982: Perth (invitational tournament)

1984: Sydney Challenge, Osaka

1985: Inglewood (4-men invitational)

1988: Inglewood (4-men invitational)

Have you got any details about those special events ? Finals dates, runner-ups, scores, surfaces ?

In advance thank you very much.

Carlo Colussi 12:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


Hi Carlo, here are some details I could find out quickly ==>

1979: Montpellier (4-men invitational), July 28-29, 1979 3rd place match: Connors - Nastase 4-6 6-1 6-3 Final: McEnroe - Vilas 4-6 6-1 6-3

1979 Perth, Oct 27-28, 1979 1st round: McEnroe - Vilas 6-2 6-4 Gerulaitis - Alexander 6-4 4-6 6-2 Final: McEnroe - Gerulaitis ??

1980: Bruxelles (Brussels) (4-men invitational), April 7-8, 1980 3rd place match: Nastase - Tanner 6-4 7-5 Final: McEnroe - Connors 6-1 7-5

1981: Rome (4-men invitational), April 8-9, 1981 1st round: McEnroe - A.Panatta 6-3 6-4 Lendl - G.Mayer 4-6 6-2 7-6 3rd place match: G.Mayer - A.Panatta 6-2 6-4 Final: McEnroe - Lendl 7-6 6-4

1982: Perth (invitational tournament), Nov 2-3, 1982 1st round: McEnroe - Gerulaitis 6-4 4-6 6-3 Borg - Lendl 6-4 1-6 6-3 3rd place match: Lendl - Gerulaitis 6-3 6-4 Final: McEnroe - Borg 6-1 6-4

1984: Sydney Challenge, Feb 15-18, 1984 Round Robin Group: McEnroe - Vilas 6-2 3-6 6-3 4-6 6-3 Lendl - Wilander 6-0 6-4 6-2 McEnroe - Wilander 6-1 6-2 6-1 Vilas - Lendl 2-6 6-0 7-6 6-0 McEnroe - Lendl 7-5 6-2 6-1 Wilander - Vilas 7-6 6-4 6-4 Final: McEnroe - Vilas 6-3 6-3 6-3

1984 Osaka, March 5-6, 1984 Final: McEnroe - Noah 7-6 0-6 6-3

1985: Inglewood (4-men invitational), April 15-16, 1985 Final: McEnroe - Lendl 6-4 7-6 3rd place match: Krickstein - Nastase 6-4 6-1

1988: Inglewood (4-men invitational), Nov 9-11, 1988 Final: McEnroe - Lendl 7-5 6-2 3rd place match: Chang - Agassi 6-3 6-3

Feardes (talk) 00:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

      • Thanks a lot Carlo Colussi (talk) 08:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.--Lucio Garcia (talk) 18:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pop-culture

How does what team he supports come under that?

Unless I am missing something, I never knew supporting a team came under that 77.99.186.110 (talk) 11:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC)