Talk:John Mayer/Archive 2

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Heidi Klum

Mayer has said he never dated Heidi Klum, per an interview with Blender Magazine.--Esprit15d 14:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect info

"John allows audio taping at most live performances, and he also allows for the non-commercial trading of those recordings. The legal details are here." That link no longer works; it is to an agency that no longer works with John Mayer.

Questionable paragraph

This paragraph:

Although Mayer has maintained a reputation for being a sensitive singer-songwriter, he is also an accomplished guitarist influenced by the likes of Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy, Freddie King and B.B. King. Mayer has worked with many important blues musicians including Eric Clapton (Back Home, Crossroads Guitar Festival), Buddy Guy (Bring 'em in), John Scofield (That's What I Say) and B.B.King (80).

seems (in context of the rest of the article), totally redundant, and breaks up the flow of the rest of the section. All those individual artists have already been mentioned (come twice already) and the details of the collaborations can be found in the guest contributions section. I think the paragraph should be taken out. Comments?--Esprit15d 14:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

too many family guy references and his own TV show wasn't even mentioned

I counted 3 times family guy was mentioned making fun of him, I'm sorry is this article about John Mayer or Family Guy making 1 random pop culture joke about him?

Second, John Mayer had his own TV show on TV, I believe VH1, I've seen clips of it online, it's actually pretty damn funny, that should be in there somewhere.

Military background?

I noticed in a picture I saw of John (it was a live show) that he wears dog tags (military issue with silencers). I wear tags like this, and I haven't been involved with the military, I was just wondering if John was ever in the military or involved with it. I'm trying to find that damn picture, sorry for now. 67.71.50.206 03:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but I don't think that was what he was wearing. It was probably a Youth Aids Tag . He is one of the charities spokespeople. Iorek85 01:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Good article

I would love for this to become a good article, but it just isn't there yet. More citations, better prose, and written more like an acutal article - not to mention a intro that summarizes the article - would all get this article moving in the right direction.--Esprit15d 15:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Terrible Paragraph

There have been a number of parodies and general critisms of Mayer, including jokes in Family Guy and other TV shows. Some people feel the John Mayer is the archetypal corporate rocker.[citation needed] Others argue that Mayer is too real, and that his vunerabiliy attracts derision due to the difficuly some "old school" rockers have with the new "sensitive" rock.[citation needed] In any case, his strange movements in concert and strained vocals are certainly a subject of parody.

Is a terribly written paragraph that is not backed up with any references at all. Stating that Mayer is 'too real' makes zero sense to me, as does the following his vunerabiliy attracts derision due to the difficuly some "old school" rockers have with the new "sensitive" rock. My preference would be for the entire paragraph to be removed as it reall adds nothing to the article.--Spoco2 05:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Ambiguous reference

Can someone explain the joke from Family Guy reference? The article simply states the joke; and expects average (non fans; or those who haven't read entire article) people to "get" it. Can the article be anymore ambiguous? I've noticed this in other articles on Wiki; though they aren't necessarilly jokes (info tends to be ambiguous or even confusing, etc.)

Try album inclusion

I'm going to re-include the John Mayer Trio album "Try!" as to remain consistent as all albums where Mayer is a primary contributor. Please do not delete this again. This is in keeping with the Wikiproject: Albums in relation to page consistency, in which you'll see that all albums where an artist provides a major contribution is considered to be a part of that contributors albums.

The same applies to Ben Folds, and should also with Dave Matthews, Eric Clapton and John Mayer. 202.147.44.87 02:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

This user has a limited history and is not a registered user, so I am replying here instead of on the talk page, where they sent me a note personally.
The user mentioned Wikiproject Albums. However, that project is not relevant to this page, since that policy applies to album articles (this is not) and in actuality makes no comment at all about which albums should be included on an artist's article (I just read the page). The policy that actually applies to this page is WikiProject Musicians, and it does not say anywhere "that all albums where an artist provides a major contribution is considered to be a part of that contributors albums." The policy there is rough and incomplete. Thus, I have been operating on precedent, as well as what makes the most sense and what is most fair to the works. Works done by a band should be credited to the band as a whole, not an individual, since that just isn't fair. Additionally, Wikipedia has a long history of separating the discography of an individual from that of the musical group they were/are in. Here a few examples: Jack White, John Phillips, David Ruffin, Sly Stone, Larry Graham, Nick Lachey, Brian Wilson, Tina Turner, Nicky Wire, Michelle Williams (singer), Mick Jagger, Agnetha Fältskog, John Entwistle, Vince Neil, Stanley Clarke, Robert Plant, Frank Black, Darren Hayes, Mark Burgess (musician), Anni-Frid Lyngstad, Graham Coxon, John Lennon, Steve Howe (guitarist), Neil Finn, Roger Daltrey, Smokey Robinson, Gladys Knight, Randy Bachman, Robert Wyatt, Biosphere (musician), Individual members of the Beach Boys, James Dean Bradfield, Joey Eppard, Steve Marriott, Grant McLennan, Tony Banks (musician), Sisqó, Alex Chilton, Bob Mould, Jim Capaldi and there are many more.
Many of these discographies have notes that wikilink to the appropriate article for the full band discography. Therefore, in the interest of consistency, that same model should be applied here.--Esprit15d 18:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Contradiction in terms

How on earth can you be a "sensitive juggernaut"? --Thoughtcat 12:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


Jessica Simpson

What do people think about including the whole Jessica Simpson bit? Jennifer Love Hewitt is mentioned in this article, so it'd just be another romantic tidbit or whatever. Plus, there is the benefit of the fact that it was on a People magazine cover only for him to say that it was overblown by her camp... Ecurran 13:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

anyone know what brand/model of guitar is pictured on the cover of room for squares? Tremspeed 22:47, 23 November 2006 (UTC)