Talk:John List
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"The Trivia section says: "John List lived in Westfield." I don't get it -- what is remarkable about this?"
Only that Westfield is an upscale suburb, and most people think that rich people don't have any problems. Someone anihilating their entire family in one of these types of towns is considered shocking and unheard of. That only occurs in poorer neighborhoods <sarcasm>.
Tiffany glass ceiling was in the ball room
re: the tiffany glass ceiling, its probably not Tiffany & Co, but Tiffany Studios, which is the company that produced the famous glass. Lewis Comfort Tiffany was the founder of Tiffany Studios; his father was the founder of Tiffany & Co.18.173.1.81 17:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that he was suffering from a mental disorder himself?
The Trivia section says: "John List lived in Westfield." I don't get it -- what is remarkable about this? Is there some subtle play on words...? Dogosaurus 07:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Trivia: "Usual Suspects?" Really? Are you sure? 24.131.12.228 17:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
"List's story bears some resemblance to that of Keyser Soze from the American film The Usual Suspects, though it is unclear if this is intentional or not." I can't think of one reason why. I've now removed it Pennywisepeter 11:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Merge
John Emil List doesn't actually add new information; I don't think a merge and redirect would be too controversial. Deadsalmon 08:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- Redirected. 68.39.174.238 00:51, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
"In the film Falling Down, the main character played by Michael Douglas is found to pretend to drive to work long after being fired from a position as an engineer in a defense contract company. This is very similar to a habit of List's, when after being fired as a bank VP, he would drive to a train station and take the train several stops to give the illusion of still being employed."
I'm not saying the person who wrote the screenplay of this movie didn't base these actions on List, but it's not the first time that someone pretending to be still employed has happened or been depicted in fiction. Usually the person doing it is depicted as being unstable, if not actually mentally ill or a substance abuser, or else they had been fired for something like embezzlement which they were not prosecuted for and which they were afraid to tell their spouse about. I listen to a lot of old time radio from the 1950's and remember at least one show where this happened--I wish I could remember which one it was, and if I do hear it again I'll come back and post it in here. I think there have been TV episodes in the 1960's where someone did this--hopefully someone else will remember one. Also in the play "The Glass Menagerie" by Tennesee Williams, written in the 1940's, I believe, the character Laura drops out of business college but is afraid to tell her mother, so she goes out every day as if she's going to college.
[edit] Why is Barney Tracy not mentioned?
He was crucial to the case.
[edit] Something a little personal...
My father had dated John List's daughter when he was a child. He told me that John used to chase him out of the house if he brought a guitar over because he felt that music was from Satan. He also told me that they really didnt have any furniture in the house and that John's mother was pretty much the same way when it came to religion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Carbon star (talk • contribs) 01:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] dead yet?
i think he has recently died in prison. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.205.72 (talk) 04:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
you have no evidence which supports that... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quaked (talk • contribs) 03:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
John List passed away today, March 21, 2008. He died while undergoing medical treatment at a prison medical facility in Trenton, New Jersey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgslate (talk • contribs) 22:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
The announcement was put out on the AP wire yesterday.~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanie821 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Time until discovery of murder
I reference this line in the intro: "He had planned everything so meticulously that nearly a month passed before anyone noticed that anything was amiss." Having read Thou Shalt Not Kill, it should be noted somewhere (not sure where, since I'm a wikipedia newbie) that the family lived a very sheltered life; rarely venturing out except to church every Sunday. Another reason, other than meticulous planning, that it took so long for the murders to be discovered is that they didn't talk to any of their neighbors, and vice versa. His neighbors pretty much thought he was a strange duck (mowing his lawn in a 3-piece suit, for example) and after attempting to socialize with the family and being rebuffed, they gave up. The police were called once prior to the discovery; the neighbors were concerned about the lights being on night and day. The police cased the area and left thinking nothing was wrong. The person who called the police the second time was daughter Patty's music teacher. I apologize for forgetting names and other details; I no longer have the book and it's been a good 15 years since I've read it. Maybe someone else could fill in the details of the discovery better than I could. 71.205.1.189 (talk) 11:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
