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[edit] Spelling
Audubon or Audobon?
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- The correct spelling is 'Audubon', however 'Audobon' is a common misspelling, so I added a redirect Andre Engels
[edit] Double Elephant inquiry
Dear Sir, My Name is Donald Traver. I have information in which I have put into a book . I am sending my book to the New York Historical society as well as Ms. Susan Low of Boca ratan , Fla. also represented at the American Museum of Natural History. It has perplexed me on the condensation of my information as I have offered to many whom apparently have only disregard for the truth of facts MIS- represented in the John James Audubon porfolio'(s) created . Of this nature of communication with many it is apparent either they are ignorant or just don't care... In any case I wish to submitt a question that is quickly ascertainable to such a expert as yourself. You appear to have a sensability , and I thought a reasonable thinking and understanding person can at least LOOK at the WALDEMAR FRIES 1973 book " The Double Elephant Folio. I'm pointing out that in this book it shows the exact reciept of the 15 EXTRA SETS that were made and published by John James Audubon. The Page of reciept is dated , on PAGE 114 .it clearly states 1839, 28,910 ( 2891 drawings) also shows 13 sets - of 7 volumes. (2 sets kept 1 Aud / 1 Havell ) Clearly Audubon had 2891drawing in 1839 clearly 15 sets were created and published by the Author. November 27,1839 As we KNOW 15 sets X 5 parts = 75 copies... This is pretty obvious to me J.J.Audubon has only 2891 drawing.
ONLY John James Audubion had created + published 1063 drawings Only John James Audubon has created Dec. 26,1839 500 Octavo edition Plates Only John James Audubon Has Printed and Published 431 Havell engraved Only John James Audubon has a FINAL NUMBERED PUBLICATION # 2014. This Printing shop of John james Audubon was located at 225 Broadway ,1839. now that you clearly see this information and we both know there are only 75 copies made of one single illustration published by the Author J.J.Audubon. in New York and turned into the District Attorney Johnathan Prescott Hall November 27,1839. Because it is documented to Mr. Hall as sworn testimony by J.J.Audubon himself and recorded that Mr. Audubon only sold 50 copies of the 75 copies = 5 X 15 EXTRA sets completed .Now that we realize that J.J.Audubon personaly put a final number to show it is HIS final PUBLICATION numbered. I too did not understand why the plate 221 print # 45 was use as a final numbered illustration , as I counted the copperplate engravings I realized that the 359 print of the year of 1834 was also the 2014 plate to be published in 1836. It naturally came to be on the Double Elephant Folio Edition Record , a single illustration to be sold with the Synopsis of the Birds of America .Audubon's final publication and A guided numbered index to correspond to the original publication of Copperplates ,to be 359 pages . Now That you see the quest that I have long persued . Do I in - fact have my ducks in the right row ?? Does this plate have more value than the average copperplate, I have put the entire record with the N.Y. state dept of bussiness records into my book . along with the records of the New York State dept of incorporation. It was interesting to Note that the National Audubon Society put out a edition from thier originals and the Company used by Havell and Audubon were incorporated November 27, 1936 ,100 years ago to the day they read in Handcolored and published by Artistic Picture Publishing Company "INC>" N.Y. City. Dated very clearly in the text " 1936... Can you pleaes respond to the question ,THE J.J.Audubon painted and numbered and published a print on ordinary paper and sold only 50 copies. They should by right be worth mor than the Havell's ,,and where do I get a reasonable appraisal ?? I can be reached at 530-342-5253 ,I also put a image of a direct scan on the web , Although a old and confusing site , The IMAGES are a DIRECT SCAN of the print just click on images....at http://www.angelfire.com/in2/audubon
I'm sure you woun't be disappointed ...I look forward to a e-mail ... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.140.218.15 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Just a detail.
If you follow and read in detail the article linked where it says
"...He is buried in the [Trinity Churchyard Cemetery] at 155th Street and Broadway in Manhattan, New York.",
you'll see that that is not precisely the "Trinity's Churchyard Cemetery" but the "Trinity Church Cemetery and Mausoleum". (Being the "Trinity's Churchyard Cemetery" the one located not at 155 St. and Broadway but at 74 Trinity Place at Wall Street and Broadway.)
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[edit] American, Not French-American
I say he was American, not French-American, based on many sources calling him American, the people of the times when he was successful calling him American, and his origin not being of great significance from the point of view of the American he ultimately became as a man. Listen, almost everyone in America at that time came from somewhere. When they came, they came to be American. Not French-American. Not Scotch-American. Not Egyptian-American. Not Belgian-American.
Audubon may have been born outside America, but he tossed aside his French origin (by escaping to America to avoid conscription into the French Army) and went where? America. Why? He wanted to be American. What was his nationality when he did what made him famous? American. What did people call him at the time? American. What are his wife and children? Americans. What do scholarly sources call him? American. He wrote about the birds and mammals of where? America. He is buried where? America. Where are cities and parks named in his honor? America.
Not French-America. He is not French-American. This article should refer to him as an American, not a French-American.
What say you all? --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 01:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
You know what else? Saying he is French-American means obliterating his true nation of birth, Haiti, by referring to the nation of Haiti by its colonial name and deferring to its colonial masters. Why not call him Haitian-American instead of French-American? Why? Because even though he was born in what is now Haiti, he become, and will forever be remembered as, an American. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 01:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
On the 200th birth anniversary of J.J.Audubon, more than 50 countries have issued stamps of his paintings. A webpage of these stamps is available at http://www.indiapicks.com/Artstamps/Artists/Audubon-1.htm. Please consider adding as an external link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vstata (talk • contribs) 21:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
