Talk:John Douglas, 9th Marquess of Queensberry

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Hmmm... before you decide he's the ninth and not the eighth you should look into the discrepancies in Queensberry (not Queensbury) enumeration. (Specificallly , you are counting James Douglas, styled Earl of Drumlanrig as the third Marquess, but he, as an idiot, never assumed such titles.) Would seem to warrant at least a footnote. --- Someone else 10:27 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)

You have the advantage on me there. But the current Marquess is listed as the 12th. Mintguy

Yes, on the lists that include the "idiot"... <G> -- Someone else 10:53 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Which includes Burke's.Mintguy
I'm not saying NOT to include him, I'm suggesting that you ought to let people know that the numbers now assigned differed from those they actually used during their lives, at least during the period from 1711 (when James Douglas, who had killed ,spitted and roasted a cookboy before the fire in 1707 was deemed not to be Marquess material) to 1812 decision of the House of Lords regarding the novodamus the second Marquess had obtained in oder to bypass the "Cannibalistic idiot' in the line of succeccsion, but in which he mentioned the Dukedom of Queensberry and failed to mention the Marquessate of Queensberry. So from III marquess to the VII, they were using different numbers than listed here. -- Someone else 11:13 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Ok I'm just trying to disambiguate all these numerous Dukes and Earls etc.. If you have the detailed information, go ahead and add it. Mintguy
Don't let me stop you, I'm just trying to point out how they're spelled and that the numbers aren't always unambiguous. I'll leave you alone, and I can add explanatory notes to the ones that were known by different numbers once you're done. -- Someone else 11:23 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Fair enough. I think you can understand my mistake re:Queensberry/Queensbury, as Queensbury is more familiar as a place name and doing a google seach shows about 45% of sites (including many with genealogies) say Marquess of Queensbury. I also note that you didn't change Lord Alfred Douglas from Queensbury. I had no knowledge of the "idiot" Mintguy

You're right. I erred in not correcting the errors in Alfred Douglas. I am fatally flawed - nay, morally repugnant. -- Someone else 11:37 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)