Talk:John C. Frémont

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[edit] Accent

Is Fremont's name really spelled with an accent mark? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 00:27, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)

According to the Library of Congress article here, yes. Gentgeen 10:33, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The linked article uses the accent mark, but if you look at the posters from Fremont's time that accompany it, they do not. I cannot find a reference atm, but I think I recall reading that Fremont dropped the accent at some point in his life. Grenache 07:20, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
The late, lamented Shelby Foote spells Fremont with the accent. He also details more reasons why Lincoln relieved Fremont of his duties: namely, rampant corruption under his command. Source: "The Civil War: A Narrative (vol. I: Fort Sumter to Perryville). --A. Lurker

[edit] Slavery

The article currently says that he was the first Presidential candidate to run on a platform of opposition to slavery. But the free soil party and other minor parties had already run before him Furthermore he was only opposed to the expansion of slavery.--Gary123 19:50, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

That's right. I've edited it to say that he was the first in a major party to do so. Why don't you add the distinction about expansion? Thanks, -Willmcw 20:31, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Court martial

The article Mormon Battalion mentions that Fremont was hauled back east to face a court martial at one point. This fact/allegation is not covered in any way by the John C. Fremont article. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] - 00:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relevance

When searching for John C Fremont, 4 public schools named for Fremont score higher than Fremont himself for relevancy. Fremont scores only 51.1%. What?

The lower relevancy is probably because "John C Fremont" is entered without an accented E. Like the entries for the schools, it's a 'redirect'. The school redirects and their main articles have no accented E, which could be why their relevancy is considered higher. Adavidb 14:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The killings of Berreyesa and the De Haros

It appears to be unclear that Fremont had any direct involvement in the murders of Jose R. Berreyesa and his nephews, Ramon and Francisco De Haro. In Fremont’s memoirs he claims that the Delawares were responsible. In other accounts Carson took the initiative and killed the three men saying later “Oh, we don’t want any prisoners; they lie out yonder.” Still other reports state that Carson wasn’t involved at all. Therefore, it cannot be said with any certainty that Fremont ordered these killings. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zafe B. Brox (talk • contribs) 14:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

If verifiable, reliable sources are provided for the "other accounts" and "reports", they can be used. --Adavidb 09:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oregon Territory

Fremont's role in the exploration of the Oregon Territory needs to be expanded upon, as it is barely mentioned. Katr67 22:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism?

Why is this article listed in the category The History of Pederasty? - 169.237.215.179 00:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I expect it's due to the content of the last paragraph in the Civil War section. —Adavidb 14:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The homosexual relationship claim seems to be based on the testimony of a single individual. Is there any corroboration of Jesse Shepherd's accusation? Was the claim made before Fremont's death? Regardless, it appears to be irrelevant to the Civil War section. Red Harvest (talk) 22:07, 9 December 2007 (UTC)