Talk:John C. Calhoun
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- Calhoun tried to gag abolitionist press in the U.S. South, which became federal law in 1841 as the 21st Rule.
Calhoun could not try to gag abolitionist press and the abolitionist press became federal law in 1841? That can't be what was meant. I suspect whoever wrote this meant that a federal law of 1841 gagged the abolitionist press. If so, that's what it should say. Michael Hardy 01:25, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Even that's wrong. The 21st rule did not gag the abolitionist press — local authorities and mob rule saw to that — but barred the consideration of House bills relating to slavery during the period from 1836 to 1844. Calhoun, a Senator, might have had some influence in that decision, although all of the other errors in this sentence (1841? federal law?) make me doubt that as well. I'm taking it out until someone can turn it into at least a partially true statement. In addition, someone as tremendously significant as JCC deserves a slightly less perfunctory profile. —Italo Svevo 19:26, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Taken from "An American History" by Stephenson, published in 1913:
417. The Gag Rules. The Southern members of Congress, unfortunately for their cause, lost their heads and attempted to surpress the right of petition. So-called "gag rules" were passed. Thereupon ex-President Adams, who now sat in Congress as a representative, became the champion of the right of petition. Year after year, he fought the gag rules, warning Congress that if they did not allow complete freedom of petition, they would have the people down on them "besieging, not beseeching." At last he carried his point, and thereafter abolition discussions in Congress were frequent and bitter.
Therefore gentlemen, I see no way to exclusively pin the "gag rules" on Calhoun. - S.A. 02/06/2006
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[edit] When was Calhoun in Minnesota?
Does anyone know during which time period Calhoun was employed by the federal government in Minnesota? I think he may have been a military officer then, but I'm not sure. Michael Hardy 01:29, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)The year 2009
[edit] Pronunciation of the surname
- Do you know whether the l in Calhoun should be pronounced (kal HOON) or not (kë HOON)?
I've always pronounced the first syllable like that in California and the second to rhyme with moon. But I can claim great experience with this name only as it applies to the lake in Minneapolis that was named after this man. (I think few people in Minneapolis realize that's who it's named after, and I'd rather keep it that way, so by that standard I shouldn't even be writing this.) Michael Hardy 23:14, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Dates in the 1840s
The text at the top and the charts at the bottom disagree as to the period he was secretary of state--was it 1844-1848, or 1844-1845?
- It was 1844-45 Mightberight/wrong 20:36, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Calhoun in the Senate
- Calhoun with his twin stands of slavery and nullification defended by rhetoric-reminds me of Cato the Elder who consistely harped on about how Carthage must be destroyed and his descendant Cato the younger and Cicero who both consistely harped on of how the Roman Senate must resist the rising star of Julius Caesar-rhetoric speaking that is.
[edit] Philosophy
There isn't much directly in the article about how Calhoun developed a whole abstract political philosophy which led him to interpret the U.S. Constitution in favor of the rights of the minority -- "minority" referring to a minority of states within the federal union, of course (Calhoun was completely and utterly uninterested in any other kind of minority). AnonMoos 09:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] lincoln
anyone want to take a stab at finding documentation linking calhoun and lincoln as relatives? WillC (talk) 22:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Non-Neutral Point of View in Introduction
It is biased and unencyclopedic to refer to Calhoun as a "...leading racist, traitor..." in the introductory paragraph. Both terms are subjective and based on opinion and cannot be stated as facts. Facts stated in the main body of the article will allow the reader to determine if Calhoun was a racist or a traitor. Since my removing those words may be mistaken as condoning Calhoun's attitudes (I do not), I will not change myself at this time, and just initiate discussion on it. Mal7798 (talk) 07:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
