Talk:John Buchanan (American politician)
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1.23% of the vote? And he's written a screenplay, and thinks that there's a conspiricy against him. Whoop-d-doo. hfool 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
1.23% of the vote isn't bad for a non-major candidate. If he was on the ballot in any state, I'd say Keep. -- Scott Burley 23:27, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)- Almost certainly self-promotion; for that sin alone, should be deleted. --zenohockey 23:51, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Sure, he only ran in one state, and just to make a political point, but since he was a presidential candidate, I say Keep. Spangineer 23:56, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Ungh, I had to think about this one. It's a tricky situation, but, in the end, he was so minor that he should be deleted. Lord Bob 00:16, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. It's a tough one, but I think he seems marginally notable, and I'd rather err on the side of including it. Everyking 04:10, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- If he was a presidential candidate, that ought to be an automatic keep, no matter how obscure. What would be the harm? [[User:Livajo|力伟|☺]] 04:14, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: "Candidate" is a weak word. Daffy Duck was a candidate (gets votes every year). 1% is less than the margin of error as, alas, we have seen. Those were probably Pat Buchanan voters who thought he was running again. At any rate, the key is that we ought not be saying "what's the harm," but, rather, "what's the use?" The presumption is negative, and it's up to the article to argue for inclusion, not for deliberators to try to prove the negative. Geogre 05:50, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Daffy Duck didn't stand up against a sitting President and accuse him of criminal negligence at best, and mass murder at worst. Buchanan paid a great price for his campaign. 63.199.155.82 10:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Primary ballot access in Mass. requires a petition with 10,000 signatures from independents or party memebers. Finding 10,000 Republicans in Massachusetts has got to be worth something. -- Scott 06:09, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Hang on. It says that he got the 1% in the New Hampshire primary. The NH primary, as all us Americans know, is the first, and it's actually organized pretty loosely. As for the petitioners, I have nothing really to say. It's just that we're talking about extremely low flat numbers in NH. Petitions.... Well, for me, they're not the strongest evidence. The point, though, is whether the fellow is notable. Personally, I think it takes more than this. I'm just one vote, though. Geogre 14:57, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Ah, wrong state, sorry. All those eastern seaboard states look alike to us westerners :). The only requirement in NH is a $1,000 filing fee, so being on the ballot doesn't really mean much. In that case I won't say delete, but I'm withdrawing my keep vote. -- Scott 21:25, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
- delete, I'm sure all his voters thought he was the Reform party Buchanan. If this had been written half-well I would've said to keep it, now it looks like obvious vanity and I don't see how it could be improved. --Eean 06:00, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep it or die. —[[User:Radman1|RaD Man (talk)]] 07:24, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- A close call but falls on the wrong side of my interpretation of the recommended criteria for inclusion of biographies. Probable delete. Rossami (talk) 19:03, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Delete this wacko vanity Wyss 20:06, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. He actually stood, so this is factual and verifiable. Mark Richards 01:46, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I've actually heard of him. Keep and list of WP:UA. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality/talk]] 02:53, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
- Above marginal keep. [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 17:50, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I think that anyone who stands for office in Presidential Elections is worthy of mention. It is not for us to judge who is serious or not. Intrigue 01:04, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Interesting. --Pgreenfinch 18:24, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. The Recycling Troll 06:34, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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