Talk:Johannes Scotus Eriugena

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[edit] Copyvio?

It looks like there's a lot of similarity between the content of this article and the content of the same article on NNDB. Several sentences are copied word for word. That page doesn't mention Wikipedia at all; that material is "copyright 2006 Soylent Communications". This article doesn't mention them. The articles on Thomas Dempster are also very similar (even more so than these two). Seems like a problem but I have no idea how to sort it out... help? Jaeger5432 12:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Can you mark out the problematic passages? I find the Soylent article quite good and superior to wikipedia (more thorough). The similar passages may stem from common root (ie Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition).-- Aethralis 08:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
The biggest passage is in the "Works" section, beginning with the second paragraph ("The first of the works known to have been written...") and extending to the end of the third (the "Translation of Ps. Dionysius"). The second passage is the third paragraph of the section "Life" ("The latter part of his life ... some reason for fixing the date of his death at 877"). The third passage is in the section "Influence". Some effort has been made to paraphrase, but some is left completely intact ("the boldness with which he works out his logical or dialetical system of the universe", etc.
I compared both to the Britannica... looks like the NNDB version is a direct copy and the WP version is condensed and mostly paraphrased from that. I hadn't thought to check for that, thanks for the suggestion... Even though... the 1911 tag was already there? OK, I'm just gonna shut up now. I must've been more tired than I thought when I "discovered" this. Jaeger5432 13:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] link?

I wrote an essay on this topic about 10 years ago which can be seen [1] does anyone think this is this a suitable link to add here? Peter morrell 15:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Even Then!

I can't believe that even in the ninth century, alcoholism was associated with the Gaelic tribe. "What separates a Scot (Irish) from a sot?" 1,125 years later we have the same pairing.Lestrade 17:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)Lestrade

...perhaps it's genetic? --78.16.53.60 23:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scholastic?

I have put him in the Category:Scholastic philosophers. Not sure if he really counts, but other sources suggest he is. So. Dbuckner 18:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

He is a scholastic philosopher only when decided that all medieval philosophers should be labelled scholastic. Please have a look at scholasticism. --Aethralis 21:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gerard Manley Hopkins

Someone should add that Scotus' Christian pantheism was a huge liberating influence on the poetry and life of Gerard Manley Hopkins. Hopkins found his vision of God being manifest in nature a way of reconciling his love of the created world with his faith as a Jesuit. To be frank I really don't understand why the Church has traditionally been so opposed to the idea that God might be immanent in his Creation. What's frightening about that? Its in the Bible after all! Paul says 'Christ is all in all things' and Isaiah talks about God's glory being everywhere. Strange. ThePeg 21:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scholem

One might also mention Gershom Scholem's controversial arguments about Eriugena's influence on the early Kabbalah (see e.g. [2] and the references therein). Beside that, I can't grasp how Eriugena can be regarded as low-importance by anyone even vaguely acquainted with Medieval philosophy. L'omo del batocio (talk) 12:46, 25 January 2008 (UTC)