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[edit] "Now Wrzeszcz" and "now Gdańsk"
I don't understand your reverts of my edits, Chris. I am following the Gdańsk Vote decisions. I use double naming. For persons of clearly German ethnicity I put the German name first. But you have to agree that inserting word "now" before the Polish names (which are older than the German ones) you're misleading the public into thinking that those cities have been recently renamed (like Königsberg). Also, I don't think there is anything wrong in mentioning the country of birth. Without it a layman would think that a German person was naturally born in Germany. I'm just making it clearer. Please respond. Space Cadet 11:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- First: I am fine with either (Now Gdansk) or (Gdansk), similar for other locations. Secondly, he was Prussian, not polish. He wrote only in German. I added a bunch of English language references that state he was Prussian/German. I did not find a single reference that stated he was Polish. In that respect calling him a native of Poland is just wrong. -- Chris 73 | Talk 21:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Also added his list of publication, based on the German article. Looks like your Pole did not write anything in Polish, or bother to publish anything in Poland -- Chris 73 | Talk 21:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- I never called him a Pole so don't put words in my mouth and save your sarcasm. I don't know that it's wrong to say that he was a native of Poland, but we can always say that he was born there, or is it also wrong?
- It seems Poland is still suffering from a shortage of historical figures and thus in need of "importing" some?-- Matthead discuß! O 00:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Again I never said, implied or suggested that the guy was in any way Polish, so how am I trying to "import" him? His parents "imported" him by deciding to have a baby in Poland. But thanks to the Potsdam agreement hopefully no more famous Germans will be born in Poland anymore. On the other hand if you guys feel so uncomfortable (and perhaps threatened?) by mentioning the guy's country of birth, let's leave it out. If you can't change the history, you can always hide those parts of it that are inconvenient for your POV. In the same spirit why don't we change Royal Prussia from "Polish province" to "a province", Ducal Prussia to "a fief"? All I want is peace and mutual respect. Space Cadet 11:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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