Talk:Joey Santiago

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From FAC: Also, I know that the main Pixies article is linked, but is there further information in your sources that could be discussed here about how Santiago developed his guitar sound during this early Pixies time? It was quite remarkable and influential, and it might be nice to hear more about some of the landmark moments that happened musicially during this time, if possible. I know that as a musician, I'd like to hear just a few key Santiago arranging and/or recording anecdotes in this section, lest it be too weighted toward being a chronological list of events.

[edit] Good Article Review - On Hold

• "Following the 2004 reunion of the Pixies, he resumed his role as the band's lead guitarist." could be better as "Santiago resumed his role as the Pixies' lead guitarist when they reunited in 2004."
  • Done. Reads much better.
• "Santiago mainly uses a Gibson Les Paul guitar while on stage; he has described his guitar technique as "angular and bent." it feels out of place in the lead. Could something be done to make the transition a bit smoother?
  • Rephrased the paragraph. Hopefully it reads more smoothly now.
• "However, as he shared the organ with five brothers, he never took it seriously" somewhat colloquial. Cloud be phrased as "He, however, shared the organ with his five brothers and never took it seriously." Cloud even be a junction of the sentence before it.
  • (Hopefully) rephrased. (Turns out it was miscited, so it was a good thing I checked over that). Hard to find an equivalent of "taking an instrument seriously" though.
• "Upon hearing the pair play, Santiago travelled back to his parent's house to collect his guitar, and soon Thompson and Santiago were playing "non-blues-scale, non-cover-song rock." Traveled (which is spelled wrong) seems a bit out of place; I don't really follow the last quote, either.
  • Done. I'll try to clarify the quote soon.
• "The two shared a room at the start of the second semester" Santiago and Black I assume?
  • Done. Made this explicit.
• "Thompson embarked on a trip to" not sure about the strength in word choice of 'embarked on'.
  • Rephrased.
• "managing wood for a butcher block company." I'm not sure why that needs to be in a quote. It's fine to just state the job position.
  • Rephrased.
• "Vamos." incorrect punctuation
  • Done.
• Overall you may want to scan the article for punctuation and grammar inconsistencies.
• "the relationship between the band members became strained; the Pixies had released three albums in two years, as well as constantly touring." The sentence ends too early. Could maybe incorporate "which caused them to ....."
  • Could you possibly have a go at rephrasing this? You might be able to do a better job. (It does seem fine to me at the moment though.)
• After the breakup of the Pixies, Santiago went into a depression for "the first couple of years" no need to quote.
  • Fixed.
• "Santiago and Mallari drove from Florida to Los Angeles, and the couple moved into Black's old apartment in L.A. on a whim" uneasy sentence. Could use rephrasing.
  • Fixed hopefully.
• "their output by the end of the 1990s was a single self-recorded song in 1995, "Free", that appeared on the film soundtrack of Empire Records." might want to add "Their output by the end of the 1990s consisted of..."
  • Done.
• "to reunite the band, and by the summer of 2004 the band had reunited" Awkward.
  • Fixed. I thought it was pretty awkward as well.
• "angular and bent"," Comma should go within the quotation.
  • Done.
• "As Santiago began learning the guitar, he saw himself as a self-conscious amateur, and still speaks of his insecurity on the instrument" Needs rephrasing. Maybe "As Santiago was taught (or taught himself, the article does not say), he..."
  • Hopefully I've rephrased it to make it clearer.
• I'm not going to force it, but the Instrumentation section might be unnecessary.
  • Removed. It was hardly noteworthy, and I'll note his software of choice in a future composition paragraph. His use of the Gibson Les Paul can be noted on the List of Gibson Les Paul players anyway (if there was such an article).

For the above reasons, I'm placing this article on hold. It will expire on October 28. NSR77 ^T_C 21:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Great. I read through the article once again and everything has been addressed. Therefore, I've passed this as a Good Article. NSR77 ^T_C 21:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)