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[edit] Accuracy disputed

Feel free to remove the tag once you've provided a source that confirms his death... Alphax τεχ 14:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

He's not dead:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0868685/board/thread/26562360?d=37853415#37853415

by - kwirk (Tue Mar 7 2006 01:13:31) Wow, I can't believe this rumor's still floating around...

Joe (real name Jose) Torres isn't dead. Unless he somehow died in the last few months and I didn't hear about it, I'm pretty sure he's still alive and living in Tucson. When it said that he died of liver failure that was an obvious joke poking fun at the Native American character he played on the show (NA's, alcoholism, etc.) That TV.com site is just like IMDB (and wikipedia) in that anyone can change or update info on somebody. It becomes even easier to do so when the person or show being edited is fairly obscure.

It's kind of funny seeing that people want to come down here to meet him and everything...I'm not gonna give away any personal info about him besides his name, but I know that he used to hang out at the Golden Nugget bar on 1st Ave. a lot. So if you're in this town you should head over there. It's not a bad bar, and you might even get to meet Danny himself! If you do happen to meet him and want to make a good impression, tell him you're a Chargers fan and/or you hate the Raiders. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by GIR (talk • contribs) 18:17, 18 March 2006

I'm not inclined to support the information one way or another, as I received my information from TV.com and IMDb. But since there's a discrepancy in the facts, shouldn't both sets of facts be presented in an effort to be thorough? Arguments for his death are listed online (as above), arguments contrary are from an equally anonymous source on a BBS (as related by User:GIR). As these equally unreliable sources of information conflict, I submit that either the article note both pieces of information, or simply gloss over the issue by ignoring it. Either way, the article espousing one fact over the other without empirical evidence is unacceptable. Please discuss. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
I would posit that considering imdb.com also contains an entry in Joe Torres's filmography playing a character of "Drunken Indian" in the Indian (as in from India) film known as "Indian" that we can write off the notion that he died from "kidney failure" (you know, like all drunken indians do!) that his death is probablly just a racist rumor. -- GIR 09:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

Despite the work having gone into this thus far, does this article/person meet the qualifications for Wikipedia:Notability (people)? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


-- This is by far the best article on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.2.252 (talk • contribs) 11:44, 27 April 2006

[edit] My recent edits

I have done my best to edit this article in a way which reflects the information posted on Internet Movie Database as being THERE, but being highly suspect. Though Torres is certainaly notable for having been on a three-season-run American television series on a major cable network, his career in television was extremely limited. I also find it very questionable that he may have appeared in the other film listed on IMDB as that film was made in India with an almost all Indian cast, and TOrres is in fact Mexican-American. I find it highly likely that the addition was made to IMDB as a racist joke, and I am going to contact them to question it. Further, because of Torres' limited career, though it is entirely possible he *DID* die, I can find no outside confirmation of this aside from IMDB. Pacian 22:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

o I think that last paragraph - "Unfortunatly for Joe, he died of kidney failure while hunting for snakes in Nevada. Poor guy. I hope Mr. Ernst attended his funeral. Buddy too. I wonder if he wore his Mets hat. He probably did." - should be removed entirely. I'll wait a day before I do it, but it's being disputed (despite what IMDb says) and it's written in a nonsensical manner anyhow. Sami 23:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

That was obviously a continuation of the racist "Indian" bit: Mr. Ernst and Buddy are characters from "Hey Dude," not real people, and the Mets hat was something his CHARACTER wore on that show. It was an act of vandalism. Pacian 00:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Check Vital Statitics

Of course someone might run down to the Arizona Department of Vital Statistics and check! If he died in AZ, it would be recorded there. However, the truth is that he hung out in a gay bar called C7 in Phoenix and did drag in the gay cabaret show there until last year when an UFO landed outside and he got in and disappeared. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.36.187.39 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 20 December 2006

[edit] Potential Lead

http://www.toyotaofrunnemede.com/Department-New.aspx

Second up from the bottom left. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.42.25.235 (talk) 03:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You know, that does sort of look like him; but without any reliable sources to that effect we can't do anything regarding it. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 21:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] reconstitution

As a WP:BLP, I culled the article of all unverified information. I struck everything unreferenced and rebuilt it with 100% referencing. The prior version is here for anybody interested in going back to try and reference any of the information that had been there. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Groove

Unless editors can provide a reliable source that Joe Torres was not in Groove, the one currently in the article stands. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Presently (talk · contribs) at least rationally explained his position in removing the Groove information. However, TV Guide is a reliable source and without a similar source espousing contrary information, this information is verifiable and pertinent. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] copied from User talk:pd_THOR#Joe Torres

hi, i really dont know how to do this, so sorry that im editing your page. i see that you keep changing the joe torres article to state that he starred in the 2002 movie groove. well, thats actually inaccurate. a guy named aaron langridge played somebody named joe torres in the movie, but it wasnt actually the same guy who starred as danny lightfoot. sorry about the harassment some of my friends may have been giving you, but we're just pretty touchy when it comes to the subject of our friend joe torres.

looooove, Presently (talk) 19:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't not believe you. But Wikipedia can't accept information that we know, only information that we can prove; that's the rules that makes Wikipedia reliable. TV Guide says one thing, but I can't find another reliable source that says another. If you can find one online (and IMDb is not a reliable source), let me know and I'll edit the article appropriately.

And don't apologize for editing my talk page, that's what it's here for. However, since this is more a discussion about the article and may be applicable to other editors, I'm going to suggest we continue it here. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)