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Contents 1 Cub or Yankee. 2 Er? 3 Cub/Yankee 4 Team colors 5 Attempt to diffuse this 6 Colors 7 WikiProject class rating 8 In St. Louis? 9 Shut the fuck/f***/freak up

[edit] Cub or Yankee.

All right. Is a a Cub or a Yankee?
For Cub, he's a native Illinois person; played more years for Chicago.
For Yankee, his New York team had a spot light, he won a World Series and caught a perfect game. He works for YES.
Mghabmw 03:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

He's also part of Wikipedia project Yankee. Though part of Project Chicago, that tends to lean more for people from the city.
Mghabmw 03:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

He played two separate stints for the Cubs and played more years with the Cubs. I think it is a no-brainer. The fact that he works for YES is immaterial - he will be managing somewhere else next year anyway.Pascack 16:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Then why are you worried about changing it to Chicago colors. I like it not having any colors then. BTW, he already has turned down managing positions. And I guess winning 3 world series is immaterial too. 208.168.227.147 17:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

If he played 5+ years on the Yankees then maybe the titles would mean more, but he was a complementary players on those teams (he only started on the 1996 champions) and he played twice as many years, in two separate stints, for the Cubs. I can't see how you can argue 3 years over 6 years.Pascack 18:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Something about a Mets fan from the Mount Vernon area that I just don't trust. Somehow I think you'd still go Cubs colors even if he played more time in NY. Mghabmw 03:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Er?

I know this is a stupid question, but why is this protected?

Because some idiot kept trying to put Yankees colors in his info box even though he played twice as many years for the Cubs. Now the page is protected because of the three-revert rule. He was clearly most reflective as a Cub, it's stupid.

Reflective as a Cub? You're so deep... Mghabmw 03:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

"16:39, 22 June 2007 Pascack (Talk | contribs) (13,624 bytes) (undid revision by Yankees10, I agree - he deserves to be shown as a Padre. Carter has worked with the Mets for the past 10 yrs and Winfield is still with the Padres now.) (undo)"

What about this... Winfield played two more years in NY, was an all star 4 more times in NY than San Diego, all but 2 of his gold gloves, all but one of silver sluggers (none in San Diego).

But he should be ANYTHING as a Yankee. Mghabmw 03:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cub/Yankee

You guys know there's a Dispute resolution process for problems such as these, right? Jpers36 15:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Team colors

I think it is also important to remember that besides playing many more years in Chicago, he had his best years as a Cub. His only All-Star selection was in 2002 for the Cubs. Joeidaho 17:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah pascack? nice alternate name. Mghabmw 19:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I love Girardi, and I hope someday he's hired as manager for the Cubs, but the All-Star selection wasn't all that special. Girardi was chosen to the All-Star game (2000, not 2002) only after Mike Piazza suffered a concussion three days before the game, Javy López turned down the spot to head home to Puerto Rico, AND Todd Hundley turned down the spot due to a sickness in his family. The Chicago Sun-Times has the story here. Girardi ended up being the only position player (on either team, I believe) not to get into the game that year. Jpers36 17:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Your credibility only goes down after editing using alternate names, your IP, and campaigning for the use of non-Yankee colors on players that met your criterion TO wear Yankee colors, i.e., Dave Winfield played longer in NY than SD, and changing Don Mattingly's colors. The colors should stay neutral until settled. Mghabmw 19:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

you should talk, it is obvious that 208.168.252.236 = Mghabmw. Pot calling the kettle black there. 192.234.99.1 19:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not trying to hide, I just didn't logged in. I don't have an alternate name though. Mghabmw 21:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I simply think he had a more accomplished career in NY, that's it. Mghabmw 17:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Attempt to diffuse this

I suggest that everyone involved in this edit war take a step back and lay off the article for a while before the 3RR blocks start being given out (if it's not too late). As a neutral party, I'm going to take out the work "primarily" as it seems non-NPOV, (and he played 578 games for the Cubs and 878 for other teams, I just added it up), but leave the colors as is. Of course, if someone reverts me, I won't revert back, but it may move you closer to a block if you've made multiple reversions in the past 24 hours. Try and decide how important this really is. CitiCat ^♫ 23:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Mghabmw already reverted you but I undid his change and went back to your's as I think you are trying to be neutral here.192.234.99.1 15:55, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I didn't revert him, I simply removed the colors to be neutral. His change was simply to revert what you've written. Mghabmw 17:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

The colors look a bit Red Sox'ish. Mghabmw 05:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colors

Any debate over what colors should be on this profile is over now - it's, of course, the Yankees, considering he's now a member (once again) of the New York Yankees. Thus, they must be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.94.35 (talk) 17:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 04:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In St. Louis?

I believe that the incident between Loria and Girardi occurred at a Dodger's game in Dolphin Stadium, not at St. Louis. I recall that Vanover was calling VERY poorly against the Marlins, and that Loria started mouthing off. Girardi had been tossed the day before, and wanted to avoid further negative Ump interaction, even though Vanover was deserving of it. He should have been more respectful of Loria in asking him to tone it down, but was more direct. However, I do not have a link handy, so I will not change it until I find a link... CodeCarpenter (talk) 17:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shut the fuck/f***/freak up

This quote has gone back and forth between "shut the fuck up" and "shut the f*** up" a number of times, and now just recently someone changed it to "shut the freak up." My feeling is that there's no reason to censor anything unless it's quoted from a source which is censored. But there's certainly no reason to ever actually change the words people have said, is there?

Having said all of that, can someone find a good source for the actual quote (partly so I can know that Girardi didn't actually say 'shut the freak up')? --Greybean (talk) 04:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)