Talk:Jocelyn Bell Burnell

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Contents 1 Pulsar question 2 wheres the pictures?!?!?! 3 Christian Fellows of the Royal Society 4 Quaker service 5 Naming the subject 6 Nobel prize 7 Picture

[edit] Pulsar question

Hi! Okay so your discovery is about pulsurs. Could explain this to me. -- 68.108.153.159

See pulsar. -- FP 02:25, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] wheres the pictures?!?!?!

im diong a project which requires a collage so yeah im in need of many many pictures

[edit] Christian Fellows of the Royal Society

Someone had added JBB to this category. The category is under consideration for deletion at [1], where I have added my twopennyworth ===Vernon White (talk) 22:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quaker service

This deserves some mention in the article. She has served as Clerk of London Yearly Meeting (now Britain Yearly Meeting) (dates should be available from Recording Clerk's Office, or from Documents in Advance if your local meeting's library has a complete series) but also continues to give talks on Science and Religion to various meetings withing RSoF, and no doubt a whole lot more I don't know about.
--NSH001 22:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naming the subject

I don't like this subject being named as "Bell", the surname of her father. She is also named as "Bell Burnell". She was known as "Jocelyn Burnell" during the period of her fairly long marriage. The heading has her as "Jocelyn Bell Burnell", with a redirect from "Jocelyn Bell" and several pages linked to "Jocelyn Bell". There's also a redirect from "Susan Jocelyn Bell Burnell" , with one article linked to it. The alternative names in the Persondata box are confusingly presented. Can we agree on a standard form of name, other than "Bell" and sort out the redirects and linked pages, please? Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 15:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

This article is down on my list to clean up once I've finished (or substantially finished) John Boyd Orr. Meanwhile, I suggest:

• There is nothing wrong with leaving the redirects. People will enter "Jocelyn Bell" or "Jocelyn Burnell" or any of the others in the search box, and they should be redirected to this article. Possibly the links in other articles pointing to redirects could be piped to this article instead, but it's not really necessary, and is of low priority.
• The article could use the name she had at the time of the event(s) described, so for instance we could say "Jocelyn Bell graduated from the University of Glasgow ...". Use "Bell Burnell" as the default, or in cases of doubt (sometimes it might be better to avoid the problem by using a pronoun).
• The alternative names in the persondata box look fine to me, except that the "(prior to divorce)" should be put inside an internal comment (or simply deleted), so as not to interfere with the intended use of persondata. Possibly a few more names could be added there. (We can't do anything about the syntax, which requires the surname(s) first, followed by a comma.)

--NSH001 19:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nobel prize

I have deleted an edit mentioning again the failure to award the Nobel Prize to Hewish's research assistant.

THIS WAS A THIRD MENTION OF THE TOPIC.

Surely this topic should not dominate the article . . . Bell Burnell has herself, modestly accepted that the common practice is to honour the head of a research team. If she had received early recognition, her achievements may have been less than what she has done without the Nobel honour. Perhaps we could re-focus the article on these achievements. ===Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 08:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

The picture someone has added is about 30 years old. Do we need it? Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 21:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Picture sems to come from a site claiming "Copyright © CWP and Regents of the University of California 1997 - 2001".  :Picture sems to come from a site claiming "Copyright © CWP and Regents of the University of California 1997 - 2001" Contributions of 20th C women to physics. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 21:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

If you click on the picture, that site credits JBB as the copyright holder (seems clear to me, even if it doesn't mention the word "copyright" explicitly)

--NSH001 (talk) 22:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)