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Contents 1 Work Needed 2 248 is false 3 The {} sign/s 4 Unencyclopedic section 5 "probus, virtuous, and religious" 6 Job's existence in Jewish scholarship 7 Explain please... 8 Moromonism section biased

[edit] Work Needed

This is a really lousy article. The introduction is dense and hard to follow unless one is well-acquainted with the topic already, and each following section reads like a partisan discussion of Job, rather than a look at a given viewpoint within a larger whole. I am going to try to reorganize it, and hopefully rewrite the intro.--Agbdavis (talk) 21:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 248 is false

No where does it say Job lived to be 248, nor that he was 108 when his trials ended. If anything he lived 140 because he lived contemporary with Moses who knew him and wrote this book of Job to define God for us. Moses lived 120. His parents and grandparents had ages of 137, and the people who he took out of Egypt, the young like Caleb lived beyond 86 while those over 30 at the exodus had all died by 60. So there is no way Job lived 248, Peleg lived 239, and even if you accepted the altered 339, placing Job back before Abram doesn't work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elijah Michael (talk • contribs) 14:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] The {} sign/s

One or more of the sign/s: {{NPOV}}{{expansion}}{{Cleanup}} placed on this page without any discussion, explanation or reasoning have been removed pending further discussion. (The category Category:Bible stories is now up for a vote for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Bible stories) Thank you. IZAK 10:40, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I am confident that adding the section on Al-Joura being the place of trial for Job would not offend anyone or the truth for that matter. Having done that however I started to wonder if the land of UZ was in fact an ancient name for Gazza region. This would make a good research topic for a young scholar. Good Luck 68.165.19.176 07:05, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unencyclopedic section

The section "In the Hebrew Bible" currently has a few problems. The tone is unencyclopedic, and the complete play-by-play in this section for some reason precedes the short summary in the "In Christianity" section. If there's going to be a full retelling of the story, it should go after the short summary.

The section for some reason adopts the archaic sound of scripture with sentences like "Job rent his clothes and cut his hair, and fell down upon the ground..." The section needs a rewrite. --Mr. Billion 04:36, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "probus, virtuous, and religious"

Umm... "probus" isn't a word. Any idea what this is supposed to mean? --Pifactorial 06:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's a supposed adjectival form of "probity", but I don't think it can function as an adjective in proper English. Maybe "upright" would be a better word? --Pifactorial 06:55, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

IM SORRY but this paragraph starts out poorly worded:

"When Job's first three friends stop answering Job, Elihu becomes angry with Job for justifying himself rather than God, angry with the three friends for condemning Job but not being able to refute him. So, he takes a middle path, emphasizing the sovereignty of God ."

Can someone please reword that so I see exactly what it is trying to say?

22:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)G2theF

[edit] Job's existence in Jewish scholarship

Quoting from the article: "Classical Torah scholarship has not doubted Job's existence." Anti-Wellhausen polemicizing aside, this is not the case. There is an opinion in the Talmud (Bava Batra p. 15) that Iyov never lived, and the story is a parable. Perhaps the article should be updated, with other information from the Talmud as to Iyov's possible period of living. 71.174.234.120 02:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Explain please...

"Satan, however, challenges Job's integrity, and so it is revealed to Satan by God that Job exceeded the protective hedge with the word "behold" in effect God is saying look he is outside his protective boundry, resulting in tragedy for Job: the loss of his children, wealth, and physical soundness"

Sorry, this is confusing. Can someone explain this a little? I think quotation marks should be in there somewhere, too. --70.19.133.192 (talk) 00:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Funny, I was just going to challenge this phrase as well. I don't know enough about the topic to edit it myself and as someone with no formal education on this topic, I find that part very confusing. 81.105.61.96 (talk) 04:07, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moromonism section biased

The section about Job under mormonism is biased, and speaks as if everything in that section is fact, whereas the rest of the article which talks about it in theory. 24.65.42.159 (talk) 00:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC)