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[edit] Significance of Joanna Sturm article

The editor brought up an important question, other than being the great granddaughter of Theordore Roosevelt, what else qualifies Joanna Sturm as a candidate for a Wikipedia article?

  • Wikipedia gives some guidance on "notability," saying the following:
  • "A topic has notability if it is known outside of a narrow interest group or constituency, or should be because of its particular importance or impact. It is an extension of the notion of prominence for biographical articles. It differs, however, from fame and importance; while all articles on "famous" and "important" subjects are notable, not all notable subjects are famous or important."
  • The subjects Theodore Roosevelt and his highly controversial daughter, Alice Roosevelt Longworth are subjects of intense historical scrutiny. In the past 30 years, no less than 20 major books have been written about TR. In the past 30 years, no less than 6 books have been written about Alice Roosevelt.

In virtually EVERY major work on EITHER of these Roosevelts, Sturm has a significan resource. As of the 21st Centurym she remains the most valuable living historic resource on Alice Roosevelt Longworth and as Alice is a significant player in 20th Century US history, in particular, women's history. And why, because, Joanna, in effect was raised by Alice as a semi-daughter from the age of 10. Joanna was a witness to and participant in the last 22 years of Alice's life. She was more than a normal daughter, she was Alice's almost constant companion and facilitarot.

Thus, Joanna was a key player in the life of the most famous presidential daughter in US history, Alice Roosevelt Longworth. And why - because Alice's relationship with Joanna was the ONLY 100% successful relationship in Alice's life. Joanna has made significant contributions to the making of the last 1/4 of Alice's life and the recording of Alice's story. Joanna was the main facilitator of Alice's famous interviews with Michael Teague over a period of more than five years that formed the basis of his book "Conversations with Mrs. L. which is Alice's only accurate auto-biography. She is pictured in that book in numerous pages. Indeed, the author thanked Joanna for making the interviews, themselves, and hence, the best "inside Alice's mind" book ever written and I've read every biography of Alice in or out of pring.

  • Joanna also was the chief facilitator of Alice being able to finish these important interviews and, by her support of this woman, literally prolonged her life into her 96th year. Withouth Joanna, Alice would never have lived to age 90 and ended up forgotten in some DC area resthome. Joanna has "inside the Roosevelt family" view that only a literal handful of living Roosevelt family members have. You can count them on one hand! Joanna has provided information to virtually every Roosevelt biographer of the last 30 years.

She IS credited by virtually every TR biographer since 1970.

Why doesn't the world know more about this remarkable woman? I suspect the plain simple fact is, that Sturm is a modest woman and keeps a very low profile. That is her right. right. That fact of NOT looking for the proverbial spotlight is NOT grounds for an article on her being NOT notable. Do some research, editors.

  • I will be footnoting this article to provide additional background information to establish the validity of this article.

Any person available to give a first-hand account of a deceased famous person's life is well deserving of an article on wiki and I feel this case is no exception. Considering that Ms. Sturm is the only direct descendant of Mrs. Longworth, this should be more reason to have an article on her. Once Joanna passes on, there will likely be even more varying assessments of Alice so a valuable resource should be used while it is available. Eleanor Seagraves, the eldest direct descendant of Franklin and Eleanor is one of the few people alive today who is old enough to provide accounts of their lives and she has an article. The article on Joanna Sturm should remain. Centers 01:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

By the same token to one objector, we should remove the Paulina Longworth article as she, most of the time, sat silently while her grandmother Alice hogged the limelight, and was so overshadowed by her that she accomplished almost nothing in life, dropped out of college, married almost on a whim, was not able to escape her demons and, in the end, died a sad and lonely death. The contrast between Paulina and Joanna is so amazing its hard to believe that they are mother and daughter. And the difference - really the change in Alice. When she stepped up to the plate and did for Joanna what she was not mature enough to do for Paulina, everything changed for that young girl. SimonATL 02:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

The entire contributions section reads like original research. At the very least, it has an opinion and an agenda. --68.198.214.16 05:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding Footnotes

I'm in the process of adding footnotes. First one using the new wiki technology went in today. SimonATL 03:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Family Background

The later half of this section, should be on Joanna's mothers article. GoodDay 20:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal life

Has she ever been married? She apparently has a daughter. --Anglius 00:52, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm wondering the same thing. The Jade Knight (talk) 08:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)