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[edit] Bisexual category

It says nowhere in this article that she is bisexual, so why is she listed as a bisexual musician? She's very queer-friendly, but I've never heard anything about her sexual preference. Thorns Among Our Leaves 01:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I removed it. I expect somebody will try adding it back, and claim "everybody knows it's true". That category should obviously only be used if it's mentioned in the article, with a reliable source. --rob 02:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
It's a common misconception that categories must be backed up in the article. Whether or not this category applies here, categories are useful on their own and should not require additional backup in the article, unless there's serious controversy. As a matter of fact I don't think there's any controversy about Joan Jett, though she has not publicly come out. --Kstern999 21:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good, except for the fact that now I have "Make Believe" (a JJ song, nonetheless!) stuck in my head. I know, you know... everybody knows it's true... x_x Thanks! Thorns Among Our Leaves 17:16, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I worked with Jett a number of times in 1996. What was "known" about her then, and supported by her conversation, was that she was a lesbian. At least till that point, I had never heard her mention having a relationship with a man. I don't know, as an assistant recording engineer, that I am a "reliable source." Bifurcation 14:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I worked in a camera store at Roosevelt Field Mall on Long Island in 1987. Joan came into the store with a young female child and older gentleman. Could the man have been Kenny Laguna? The child was about 10 though I could not tell the relationship between the 2. Could it be possible Joan has a child? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.98.90 (talk) 05:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Excessive negativity?

While charting at 19 and 57 is a drop from ILRR, Album still charted higher than Bad Reputation and Glorious Results' position is nothing to sneeze at. Aside from charting, Glorious Results is easily her most consistent album to that point and, while lacking a breakthrough hit song, it's a quality album. (Few artists get even one ILRR to drive an album, much less do it again.) Describing these as 'two clunkers' is a region of opinion but goes so far as to be virtually 'incorrect'. Good Music was a disaster, on the other hand.

She was not a 'backup' singer in the Runaways, but a 'backing' vocalist when she wasn't lead vocalist. In a band sense, Curie was the 'lead' but on a track by track basis, Joan would often take lead vocals.

Wouldn't hurt to mention DDDDC was later released on Hit List, though the version lacked energy and the album was incoherent. Also, an expansion on the so-called 'Riot Grrl' thing and a mention of L7 (they recorded 'Cherry Bomb' together, for instance) wouldn't be out of place. It's not so much that the Runaways were huge or Joan Jett or even all the 'Riot Grrl' bands but, together, they form a large and influential stream. Maybe also more on her influences, which are 50s/60s rock, punk, and metal. She didn't just randomly cover everything from Tommy James to AC/DC, but these permeate all her own music, as well. (Part of the reason Hit List was such a bomb was that it didn't convey any of this very well.)

I don't feel up to editing the article because I'm largely ignorant of her non-musical information and I'm biased regarding her music (which I do know) but I still feel my perception is accurate and that this article doesn't really 'capture' Joan Jett yet. --68.221.118.89 20:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Danny Bonaduce claimed he had an intimate encounter with her on the radio recently.

[edit] Stephanie Adams

I've flagged a mention of Stephanie Adams with a FACT tag; see this for the reason why. -- Hoary 02:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Now in the archive of that discussion page. The (near-) consensus on the talk page of Stephanie Adams was that very little of what the article said was both verifiable and non-trivial. So mention of Joan Jett has been deleted from it. -- Hoary 09:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MusicBrainz

Could be a good link to get to her (and other artists) production of released music from MusicBrainz. They have some information about that she performed under the alias Patti Rasnick (See : Joan Jet's entry).

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[edit] Joanie

A very minor matter but, as I see Joan has a lot of fans here, who like to work on her article, I thought I would suggest that she might be referred to as "Joanie" at least once in her piece. I don't recall her ever referring to herself that way, and she was never called Joanie on a record, but she was quite often referred to (by others) as "Joanie" back in her Runaways days, and I never read of her objecting. What I'm saying is, lots of people thought of her as Joanie Jett. IanHistor 15:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Republican?

"While it has been said Jett is a staunch Republican and an avid supporter of President George W. Bush, she performed at a campaign for Howard Dean and contributes to Democratic funds."

Uh, are you kidding me? She made fun of George Bush in the "Riddles" song, along with Rumsfeld. My Joan is a bi, veggie eating feminist riot grrrl Democrat who feels repsect for military people because she almost joined the army herself. Will somebody PLEASE clean this up? I don't wanna get into a pissing contest with people changing her article all the time. She is NOT a supporter of Bush!

But she probably likes the Bush...well groomed, that is. Hee hee hee  :D

[edit] Wig???

The article states in the Trivia section that her hair during the Up Your Alley era was a wig?? Is this true? Is there a source for this? Has she admitted this? I would like to see a source verifying this. I searched the Internet and found NOTHING on it. Can someone help me out here?--Sivazh 19:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The author of the wig edit said in their edit summary that they were an assistant on the tour. I guess that goes against wikipedia’s no-primary-research rule but I think those ideological guidelines are mostly meant to smooth out controversy. This seems harmless (and why would someone make that up, I figure?) so I do not think it matters much whether it stays or goes.--209.6.158.247 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sunday Night Football song by Pink

Has anyone else noticed this song is a blatant cover of "I Hate Myself For Loving You" with different lyrics? I am not sure if Jett wrote the original or not but there should be royatly payments involved, it is such an obvious rip off. Just wondering if anyone else heard this and for all I know the song has been used with permisson. Flagg 29

how is a cover a rip off? of course they had permission, it's on monday night football. not like you'd be the only person in the entire world to notice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.224.166 (talk) 02:30, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cats - Where?

So is she from Philadelphia or Long Island - the cats say both.TerriNunn 01:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 7*

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[edit] Long Island?

Why is Joan listed in the "People from Nassau County, New York" category?

[edit] Jett a New York Jets fan?

The picture shows a Joe Namath jersy. Chivista 22:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

She an ORIOLES fan! Cripes, this article is useless  :(

[edit] Joan Jett's date of birth

I ask anybody who wishes to change the birth year to place say something here on the talk page, and please put in a footnote. For now, I'm going by imdb. Also, please label your changes in your edit summary, and try not to lump birth-date change with other, possibly valid changes. Otherwise, you force others to keep all the changes, or revert them all (the latter being common and unpleasant) --rob 10:41, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Hey Rob,

I changed Joan Jett's birth date to 1960. While this is a subject of speculation among fans, her date of birth has always been listed as September 22,1960. Most sources including answers,com list this date as her birthday. (UNSIGNED)

1958 and 1960 are shown. We need a verifiable source. IMDb gives 1958,[1] so I've used this. Any change should be backed up with a reference. Please note many sites such as answers.com mentioned above are just mirrors of wikipedia. Tyrenius 20:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Although I also think 1958 is most likely, I would also support the complete removal of the year of birth, until we have a truly reliable source, and feel certain of it. As long as the article can state when various things happened (e.g. album release years), we can give people the required context of when stuff happened, without risking making a factual error. I won't personally remove 1958 as the year, but if somebody changes it back to 1960 again, I will remove that year. --Rob 05:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Someone changed it to 1960 again, but I've changed it back. If you want to remove it entirely I don't care, but it seems like we should be able to find a source somewhere. Natalie 19:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Today, again, it was made 1960. I find 1958 at IMDB and 1960 at allmusic, and no notation anywhere else including her own website. Maybe it should be noted either/or, until a definitive source is found? Salamurai 15:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I found an interview with Jett from Aug 2006 where she's asked how she feels about being 47. That would support her being born in 1958 (to be 48 a month later in 2006), but I wouldn't call it definitive. http://www.montrealmirror.com/2006/080306/cover_music.html Salamurai 15:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

When generally reliable sources contradict one another, they should all be cited and the discrepancy noted in a footnote. For an extreme example, see the footnotes on the birthdate of Magda Lupescu. - Jmabel | Talk 20:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe someone might notice that being born in 1958 (or 1960) and moving to Van Nuys in 1962, at the age of 13, is incompatible.DOR (HK) (talk) 06:02, 12 February 2008 (UTC)DOR (HK) Feb 12, 2008

At this point i think someone needs to mention that Joan is the hottest 49 yr old on the face of the planet. Yum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.208.120.99 (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Popularity comback

I just seen her in concert two days ago at the albany NY tulip fest. There were alot more people than were expected she gave an awsome concert many young people as old i think Joan jett and the blackhearts will go farther than expected.24.195.201.60 16:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)tridentdc2424.195.201.60 16:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

The discography section needs to be reorganized- separated by studio albums, live albums, compilations, etc. --Hotdoglives 04:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

Several of my 1994 photos I've placed in the linked Commons category include other unidentified musicians (presumably mostly members of the Blackhearts). Someone who knows their way well around Jett's collaborators might be able to improve the photo descriptions. - Jmabel | Talk 20:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Pollard comment

Who the fuck removed the comment that Robert Pollard made in the trivia section? It's genuine fucking trivia - ZEROpumpkins 12:18, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Never mind, it's back - ZEROpumpkins 11:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joan Jett

Dear Joan,

 My brother, mom, and I love your music. Our favorite song is Crimson and Clover. My brother and I both have the Blackhearts picture as a background on our computer. They are so awsome! We talked our mom in to getting a background like ours. She said she'll do it. All three of us love your air guitar. Have you ever writen a book? If you haven't already, you should look into making one. We think it will be the best book on earth!




We love you.  Rock on!

Samantha McCoy age 11 Elijah McCoy age 8 Venita McCoy age 43


GO BLACKHEARTS! WE LOVE YOU JOAN!!!!!

[edit] Politics

I remember reading somewhere that she was a spokeswoman for the New York State Democratic Party. Can anyone confirm or deny this? --Eastlaw (talk) 06:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)