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		Contents 1 Reversões 2 Racismo 3 Discussão com outro usuário 4 List of countries by CO2 emissions 5 Brazil page 6 June 2007 7 Gisele 8 Category:Unasur templates 9 Tabela 10 Brazil edit war 11 Orphaned non-free image (Image:Alessandra Ambrosio.jpg) 12 Simplificar Template:Brazil topics 13 Thanks 14 Contributions 15 Orphaned non-free image (Image:Novo Maracanã.PNG) 16 Fair use rationale for Image:2007_Pan_American_Games_Map.gif 17 Belgium FAR 18 WikiProject Brazil 19 Image:Adriana_Lima_by_Ulises_Jorge.jpg 20 License tagging for Image:Live Earth Rio Concert.jpg 21 Image:Live_Earth_-_Rio_de_Janeiro_-_Xuxa.jpg listed for deletion 22 Image:Live_Earth_-_Rio_de_Janeiro_-_Xuxa6.jpg listed for deletion 23 Image:Live_Earth_-_Rio_de_Janeiro_-_Xuxa2.jpg listed for deletion 24 Image:Live_Earth_-_Rio_de_Janeiro_-_Pharrell_Williams.jpg listed for deletion 25 Image:Live_Earth_-_Rio_de_Janeiro_-_Xuxa3.jpg listed for deletion 26 Image:Live_Earth_-_Rio_de_Janeiro_-_Xuxa5.jpg listed for deletion 27 Image:Live_Earth_-_Rio_de_Janeiro_-_Xuxa4.jpg listed for deletion 28 Replaceable fair use Image:Blumenau_City_Hall.jpg 29 Replaceable fair use Image:2007_Pan_American_Games_Map.gif 30 Replaceable fair use Image:Brazil_max_temperature.PNG 31 Replaceable fair use Image:Sao_Paulo_Central_Market.jpg 32 Replaceable fair use Image:Interlagos_Circuit.jpg 33 Replaceable fair use Image:Municipal_Theatre_of_Rio_de_Janeiro.jpg 34 Replaceable fair use Image:Copacabana_Beach.jpg 35 Replaceable fair use Image:Brasília_2007.jpg 36 Live Earth - Wikipedia em inglês 37 Images 38 Hello 39 Padronização dos nomes das bandeiras do brasil 40 TfD nomination of Template:New Seven Wonders 41 Replaceable fair use Image:Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium.jpg 42 2007 Pan American Games medal count 43 Image:First_Podium.jpg listed for deletion 44 Replaceable fair use Image:Adriana_Lima_by_Ulises_Jorge.jpg 45 Image:Live_Earth_Rio_Concert.jpg listed for deletion 46 Image:Pira_Pan_Americana.jpg listed for deletion 47 Unspecified source for Image:Pan_2007_Volleyball.jpg 48 In the news 49 Pan 2007 50 Artigo de contagem de medalhas do Rio 2007

[edit] Reversões

Por que o senhor reverteu minhas contribuições. Eu, por acaso, lhe dei permissão para fazê-lo? Opinoso 21:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Sua tabela está completamente desconfigurada e mal-feita. Você, com ar de esperteza, colocou fotos de São Paulo e Rio de Janeiro por cima da tabela para, maliciosamente, esconder os erros grosseiros da última.

Se você quer postar, faça um trabalho bem-feito antes de fazê-lo. Opinoso 21:54, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

A Wikipédia não é uma brincadeira de criança. Aqui não se pode fazer mudanças ou reversões sem, antes, dar uma explicação plausível para tal.

Você está indo contra as leis da Wikipédia. Opinoso 21:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Não tenho nada contra a tabela e, muito menos, contra você. Eu nem ao menos sabia que a tabela foi feita por você. Fui consultá-la e ela se encontrava horrivelmente mal-feita, com cidades sendo repetidas mais de uma vez.

Apenas não entendo essa sua absessão em pintar o Brasil como uma Nova Alemanha ou uma Nova Europa.

Se você quer mostrar aos estrangeiros como o Brasil de fato é, pois retrate o último fielmente. Pintar o Brasil como uma Nova Alemanha está longe, mas muito longe de mostrar a realidade deste País. Opinoso 22:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Não há nenhuma saturação de imagens na sessão sobre Demografia. Muito pelo contrário, há falta delas, pois há espaços enormes sem nenhuma figura.

O que de fato o encomoda sou eu ao tentar retratar a miscigenação e diversidade étnica característica do povo brasileiro.

Se eu tivesse colocado várias modelos loiras de ascendência alemã tenho quase certeza que o senhor iria vir me elogiar.

Se você quer colocar imagem de modelos loiras, vá na página da Noruega ou da Finlândia e poste lá. Opinoso 22:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Tenho muitas razões para crer que você tenta pintar o Brasil como uma Nova Alemanha.

Talvez ninguém se encomode com suas mudanças pois há no Brasil um racismo velado e tudo o que o povo quer é que creiam que o Brasil é um país de loiros ricos e que favela é uma invenção da imprensa.

Vejo suas atitudes, ao entrar no artigo dos Afro-Brazilians e tentando, astutamente, diminuir o número de negros no Brasil e mudando os dados sem dar explicações. Ou mesmo colocando fotos de Gisele Bündchen e Ana Hickmann para representar o povo brasileiro e apagando fotos de Pelé e outros negros.

E, o pior, apagando fotos das mundialmente famosas praias brasileiras para colocar uma cena rara de neve caindo em um lugar inóspito de Santa Catarina?

Não são muitos motivos para avidenciar sua neura em criar uma Nova Alemanha em terras brasileiras?

Não se esqueça que Hitler morreu há mais de 60 anos, amigo. Opinoso 22:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

De que adianta trabalhar a semana inteira e criar, ao mesmo tempo, imagens falsas do Brasil?

Não tenho nada contra pessoas loiras nem contra cor de cabelo de ninguém e, muito menos, sobre origens européias do Brasil.

Mas o meu País não é loiro, caro amigo. Aliás, nem mesmo na Finlândia os loiros são maioria esmagadora, não ultrapassam os 60% da população, e perceba que a Finlândia é o país mais loiro do mundo.

A cultura européia do Brasil não está em loiros. Você precisa pegar um bom livro de História e descobrir que fomos colonizados pelos Portugueses. E, se você já viu os portugueses, são raros os casos de cabelo loiro entre eles. São morenos, assim como a maioria dos europeus.

Você tem uma imagem muito fantasiosa da Europa. Os loiros são minorias em qualquer país europeu e a maior parte deles não passam férias no Caribe todos os anos. Muito pelo contrário, a maioria é de classe-média e não tem dinheiro para tal.

O Brasil não é europeu e nunca será. É um país sul-americano, extremamente miscigenado.

Mesmo nas raras colônias alemãs sulistas que ainda não se miscigenaram, culturalmente falando já o estão.

O verdadeiro valor do brasileiro não é ter cabelo loiro, preto ou roxo, mas saber valorizar a diversidade étnica que aqui se formou. Você não parece saber. Opinoso 22:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Racismo

O Brasil não é divido em comunidade de italianos, negros, portugueses ou alemães. Isso nunca existiu e nunca existirá por aqui.

Os negros não são nem 45% e nem 6% do Brasil. Negros, aqui, somos todos. O senhor devia ler textos sobre pesquisas genéticas em brasileiros que apontam que, nada mais, nada menos que 90% dos brasileiros possuem ascendência africana subsaariana.

Mesmo que não leve no sangue, todo e qualquer brasileiro leva heranças africanas na sua cultura.

Os dados do IBGE são fantasiosas, pois o Brasil tem pessoas racistas como você que não sabem valorizar a contribuição afro-brasileira dentro da sociedade. Nem mesmo os negros se auto-declaram como tais no IBGE.

Bundchen e Hickmann não representam os alemães. Ambas são brasileiras há gerações e nem mesmo sabem falar alemão. Lula nem ao menos é de origem italiana. Nasceu no Sertão Nordestino, onde nunca houve migração italiana.

Você precisa se atualizar sobre esses assuntos.

Não tenho nenhum preconceito contra europeus. Parte da minha família é composta por imigrantes italianos, e tenho grande orgulho em relação à isso.

O fato é que sou realista, e não vejo nada bonito alguém tentando reviver dogmas nazistas em uma enciclopédia acessada por milhares de pessoas em todo o mundo. E, muito menos, que envolvam o Brasil em neuroses de cunho racista.

Obs: Não apague novamente o que eu escrevi. Se você não é racista, não tem o que temer, não é mesmo? Opinoso 22:35, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Antes de você postar qualquer foto de uma modelo brasileira loira, você terá que postar fotos de 10 negros, pois são numericamente maior várias vezes.

Os brancos não formam metade da população e você sabe disso. Não há um Censo concreto no Brasil que possa afirma as raças da população, pois o IBGE se utuliza de auto-declaração e a maior parte dos brasileiros nunca parou pra pensar à qual raça partence e responde qualquer coisa na hora de responder.

Além disso, há o racismo, o que faz que pessoas escuras se auto-intutilam como brancas.

Quem lhe garante que Gisele Bündchen e Ana Hickmann são descendentes diretas de alemães? Você tem a árvore genealógica delas para saber disso? Vê-se o ator/modelo Rodrigo Hilbert [1], cujo nome e aparência são completamente alemãs, mas afirma ter ascendência negra africana também.

Assim como Rodrigo, a esmagadora maioria dos intitulados brancos brasileiros tem origens africanas e indígenas.

Apenas um estudo genético nos 180 milhões de brasileiros poderia nos dizer se há uma metade branca neste País. Não vai ser um leigo de aspirações nazistas como você que irá dizer quem é branco e quem não é.

Você é geneticista?

Você é a primeira pessoa que afirma que Lula é d eorigem européia. Faça um exame genético nele e depois me diga de onde ele descende. Opinoso 00:42, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

6,2% é o número de auto-declarados negros. 45% é o número de mestiços com ascendência africana.

Vou lhe passar o telefone de um professor ótimo de biologia para que você aprenda alguma coisa de genética. Opinoso 19:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Se você tivesse cérebro, perceberia que uma pessoa mestiça continua sendo afro-descendente. Afro-descendentes não são apenas descendentes puros de africanos.Opinoso 19:31, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Branco brasileiro não é loiro. Branco brasileiro é, em sua maioria, morenos, descendente de Portugueses ou Italianos. Alemães loiros são minoria. A sua neurose por loiros é patética.

Você anda passando água oxigenada na cabeça? Deve ter deteriorado seus neurônios. Está tudo explicado. Opinoso 19:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussão com outro usuário

Olá, vi que você e o usuário Opinoso estão travando uma edit war, mas me parece que os dois estão com boa-fé. Ele fez apenas alterações na seção de população, mas o trabalho que você fez em todas as outras seções está inalterado. Vamos todos conversar acerca da seção de população e tentar chegar a um consenso. Também comecei a conversar com ele.

Hoje tentarei inserir fontes relacionadas a geografia e assuntos afins.

Sparks1979 18:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Farei a tradução por você solicitada apenas para que possa debater com o Opinoso na talk page com igualdade, considerando suas dificuldades com inglês.

Eu já disse que meu inglês é ruim, e eu me esforço para melhorá-lo.

I’ve already told you I have limitations in English, though I’m making efforts to improve it.

Você escreveu 50% do artigo? (rs) Isto é uma afronta às contribuições dos usuários. Pode se ver claramente no histórico que você não fez quase nada.

You’ve written 50% of the article? (lol) You are disregarding other users contributions. I can clearly see in the page history that you’ve done almost nothing.

Eu não entendo você, se você quer mostrar todos os retratos do Brasil, é preciso mostrar imagens de loiros, porque eles existem. Eu não entendo, se houvessem apenas fotos de loiros, mas não, existem ao lado imagens de negros, mulatos, asiáticos e outros brancos.

I don’t understand you; if you want to present a faithful image of Brazil, you should present pictures of blondes too, because they also exist in the country. I don’t understand. If there were only pictures of blonde people I could understand you, but there are pictures of blacks, mulatos, Asians and other white people on the side.

Isto aqui é realmente uma enciclopédia, precisa apresentar informações de forma parcial. Tem que mostrar os dois lados da moeda, o Brasil tropical e o Brasil abaixo dos trópicos, o Brasil de afro-descendentes e de descendentes europeus.

This is an encyclopedia and information must be presented from a neutral point of view. Both sides must be shown, the tropical Brazil and Brazil below the tropical line, the Brazil of afro-descendents and of European descendents.

*Não se ve suas contribuições milagrosas no histórico.

*I don't see your miraculous contributions in the page history.

*A seção de demografia está representando todas as caras do povo brasileiro, não sei por que você tem este preconceito contra os loiros.

*The demography section presents all groups of the Brazilian population; I don’t know why you have prejudice towards the blondes.

*Sim, eu havia removido a seção "Education and Health", mas se você fosse atento, iria ver que tudo foi resolvido com conversas civilizadas.

*Yes, I removed the “Education and Health” section, but if you pay more attention, you will notice everything was resolved through civilized conversation.

*A região Sul, independentemente de ter clima Subtropical ou Temperado, possui ocorrência de neve anualmente. E não em lugares distantes, se você fosse informado, saberia que nevou 3 vezes mês passado na cidade de São Joaquim.

*The South Region has annual occurrences of snow, whether the climate is Subtropical or Temperate. Not in distant places. If you look it up, you will find out the town of São Joaquim experienced snowy weather three times last month.

*A tabela deve ser distorcida pela configuração do seu computador. Se você notou, ninguém reclamou dela. E a palavra Recife aparece duas vezes sim, uma na lista e outra para legendar sua foto.

*The table must have suffered distortions because of your computer’s configuration. You will notice no one else complained. The word “Recife” appears twice – once in the table itself, and another in the picture’s footnote.

*Mulatos e Pardos não podem ser considerados como negros (esta é a maior piada), pois mulatos também descendem de brancos, indígenas e outros. Se for assim, o Brasil tem mais de 80% de brancos.

*Mulatos and pardos can’t be considered black people (this is a joke), because mulatos are descendents of white people, indigenous populations and other groups. Looking at it this way, Brazil has more than 80% of white.

*O assunto sobre genética não prova nada. Famosos afro-descendentes brasileiros, descendem também de europeus (Como Daiane dos Santos, 40% européia) [2]

*The genetics argument doesn’t prove anything. Famous Brazilian afro-descendents have European ancestry (such as Daiane dos Santos, 40% European) [3]

[edit] List of countries by CO2 emissions

The data on the page is from 2003 (the latest complete dataset for CO2 emissions) [4]. Please do not change those - unless you can find a complete dataset for all the other countries. Otherwise they will not be comparable. --Kim D. Petersen 23:31, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brazil page

Hi, I sent a message to Opinoso. All controversial changes to the Brazil page needs to be discussed in the article's talk page first. Regards, --Carioca 23:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] June 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Brazil. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Instead of reverting, discuss it on the Talk Page. The page is currently in its pre-edit war status and it should remain so until a consensus is established. Dali-Llama 00:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gisele

Quis trocar a foto simplesmente pelo fato de Bundchen estar com cara de bruxa na mesma. A foto não faz jus à sua beleza.

Você não tem nenhuma visão estética. É lamentável. Opinoso 16:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Ninguém é bonito de qualquer jeito. Gisele parece bruxa naquela foto, e muitos já comentaram isso por aqui. Opinoso 17:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Unasur templates

Hello. You created Category:Unasur templates on the 3rd of this month. The template is currently empty - can it be deleted? Thanks. Mike Peel 17:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tabela

Eu não lhe dei permissão para mudar os dados da tabela.

A pesquisa foi realizada pela PNAD à mando do IBGE. Você não tem o direito de trocar os números, é vandalismo.

Vou reverter e espero que você não me crie problemas novamente Opinoso 22:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Se você soubesse ler em inglês, saberia prontamente que as fontes são evidentes.

Antes de você fazer mudanças absurdas, aprenda a perguntar ao autor antes. Se você quer mudar a estética do conteúdo, fique à vontade. Mas não permito que você mude dados verídicos sem dar explicações prévias. Isso é vandalismo, caro colega. Opinoso 22:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Brazil. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. This is a warning over your edits over the demographics table and figures. Dali-Llama 22:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Já consegui pôr a fonte! Opinoso 22:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brazil edit war

I can't believe this discussion is still happening. One can browse the archive and see that these 2 users have been fighting for almost an year, for the same thing. Opinoso: You can have your point of view, but the fact that you wrote a big part of the article DOES NOT make you its owner. All text you write in Wikipedia is becomes automatically property of Wikipedia (not yours), since when you edit an article, above the 'Save page' button, there's a sentence saying: "You agree to license your contributions under the GNU Free Documentation License". So this means ANYBODY can, and WILL modify your contributions, and you should take that easy. If you don't like anybody being able to edit your text, then don't write anything in Wikipedia. Also, Wikipedia is community driven and you MUST NOT MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS. If you want to make an encyclopedia with your own point of view (and just yours'), then feel free to start your own online encyclopedia. But YOU MUST STOP PERSONAL ATTACKS HERE. THIS IS NOT A JOKE. Joao: If I were you, I would ignore Opinoso's complains, but avoid to break the three revert rule. Contact Wikipedia's administrators directly to take a further action.

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Alessandra Ambrosio.jpg)

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[edit] Simplificar Template:Brazil topics

Olá felipe. Ví que você ultimamente modificou um pouco o Template:Brazil topics para centralizar os outros Templates existentes em um só. Realmente foi a melhor atitude, porém acho que ficou muito poluído. O que você acha de criar uma página, nos moldes da dos EUA, para que centralize todas as páginas relacionadas, e assim deixar a Template:Brazil topics somente com os tópicos mais importantes, padronizando conforme os outros países? — Guilherme ^(t/c) 17:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Ótima idéia. O Brasil tinha uma página como esta, não sei porquê deletaram. Eu até tentei criar novamente, mais foi muito trabalhoso e desisti. Se você quiser, posso ajudar, mas estou bastante ocupado reformulando o Wikipedia:WikiProject Brazil. Obrigado e bom trabahlo! Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 17:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Simplifiquei bastante, seguindo o padrão das outras páginas. Dá uma olhadada Template:Brazil topics

Você poderia depois corrigir as páginas que apontam para o template? Obrigado— Guilherme ^(t/c) 20:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Bom... eu estou sem tempo para corrigir as páginas que têm ligação para o template. Você já criou a página List of Brazil-related topics? Acho que só devemos simplificar o template depois de ter criado a lista. Reverti a sua edição por enquanto, assim que a página estiver pronta nós podemos simplificar o template. Obrigado. Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 15:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Olhei o motivo do porque de deletarem a página. Alegaram que não havia necessidade de criar uma lista extensa com os tópicos do Brasil. Realmente tenho que concordar com eles. Fica muito confuso uma lista com todos os tópicos de um país grande como o Brasil. As Categories fazem melhor esse trabalho e de uma forma mais organizada. Não acho também que o template tenha algo a ver com isso. Ele só tem a função de mostrar os tópicos realmente mais importantes. Por mais confuso que estava (e agora voltou a estar) foi porque tinha muitos links até desnecessários para a função do template. Acredito que do modo que eu tinha deixado fica melhor, pois todas as páginas que estavam são facilmente acessíveis pelas que coloquei. O quê você acha? Abraços — Guilherme ^(t/c) 16:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, restaurei sua edição. Acho que a solução é criar outros templates que reúnam artigos sobre o mesmo assunto. O que acha? Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 16:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Se não fugir dos padrões, não vejo porquê de não criar. Quais você pretende? — Guilherme ^(t/c) 16:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Na verdade eu só restaurei o Template:Lists of Brazilian states, mais acho importante criar um template para subdivisões como os estados e as regiões. Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 16:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Ops, este template já existe (rs). Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 16:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Acho que não precisamos de algo mais que [Template:States of Brazil|isso]], afinal, ele já cumpre bem seu papel. Sobre o da lista, ao invés de criar um template, acho melhor padronizarmos os infobox dos estados do Brasil e colocar as colocações dos rankings (de área, população, HDI, etc) apontando para cada página, como já é feito nos infobox para países e no infobox dos estados do Brasil na wikipédia em português. O que acha?

[edit] Thanks

Thanks, I'm looking forward to helping out with what I can and yes the new layout look very good! Cheers, -AJSDA115 22:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contributions

I've just seen your invitation to contribute to the Brazil project in wikipedia, but it would really help if you gave me more specific suggestions as to where contributions are needed. Please bear in mind that I do not have easy access to proper books about Brazil, since I no longer live in the country. fmeneguzzi 15:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Belgium FAR

Please see Talk:Belgium#FAR_removed. Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Brazil

Ok. Viajarei nesse fim de semana, mas semana que vem tentarei ajudar.

Sparks1979 11:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] License tagging for Image:Live Earth Rio Concert.jpg

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[edit] Live Earth - Wikipedia em inglês

Oi. Sou eu que retirei a sua galeria de imagens da página do show brasileiro do Live Earth na Wikipedia de língua inglesa. E o fiz de novo. É ótimo que você queira colaborar e acho que deve mesmo continuar fazendo, mas entenda que colocar uma série de imagens de péssima qualidade não enriquece em nada o conteúdo da página. Aquela que está no quadro à direita, no alto, vende muito bem o peixe do que foi o concerto. As que você colocou, me perdoe a franqueza, são irrelevantes. Algumas apenas repetem o conceito da principal, que é o de mostrar a praia cheia de gente, só que de outros ângulos. Outras são da apresentação da Xuxa, que pode ser um nome importante para os brasileiros e, portanto, na Wikipedia de língua portuguesa, mas na de língua inglesa, tem importância zero. E, mais importante do que tudo isso, a qualidade delas é muito ruim, de forma que não têm utilidade para o internauta que freqüenta a página. Imagens borradas, distorcidas, desfocadas, só valem se documentarem algo de fundamental importância de que não existem registros melhores: pense nas fotos do momento em que John Kennedy toma um dos tiros que o matou, por exemplo. Para registrar algo de que existem boas imagens, é preferível procurar boas imagens. Confesso que não é algo que eu me daria ao trabalho de fazer, porque acho que não é o mais importante ali, mas se você estiver disposto, ótimo. Mas aquelas imagens, com a definição que têm, não ajudam em nada. Só poluem a página. Portanto, lhe peço que, se é tão importante para você que haja fotos ali, procure fotos melhores - e, de preferência, mais significativas, como as dos artistas internacionais (Lenny Kravitz fez um show de graça em Copacabana pela segunda vez, o que julgo significativo) ou dos nacionais de maior peso, como Jorge Ben Jor, que teve a distinção de tocar depois de alguns dos estrangeiros, ou O Rappa, considerado o show que mais empolgou o público. Ok? Não tome como pessoal, acho que nós dois queremos melhorar a página e isso pode ser feito de forma mais caprichada. Valeu! JimboB 00:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

E foi mal se a primeira mensagem, lá no histórico da página, foi meio grosseira. Devia ter te procurado antes pra falar isso. Desculpe. :-) JimboB 17:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Hi Abu badali. I don't understand (My English is bad), why you considered the images of São Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for speed deletion? Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 00:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Joao Felipe. Per our policy on non-free content, we should never use non-free content (like "promotional" images) when it's possible to produce a free alternative. And as it's an easy task to produce freely licensed images for illustrating modern cities like São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro, we don't need to use non-free images.

I hope you understand. Best regards, --Abu badali ^(talk) 12:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok... But now, the articles of São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro will need quality images. Thanks. Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 00:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

There are plenty of them at Commons. But if some is missing, lets go out and produce them! --Abu badali ^(talk) 05:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Olá, por favor,

O q signifca este selo, postado agora (Brazil Collaboration)??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ptah%2C_the_El_Daoud

Grata

Ludo

Olá, fui eu q perguntei isso e não o Ptah. As edições foram praticamente 80% minhas e não dele.

Não entendi. O que é Brazil Collaboration?

Como fui eu quem o melhorei, o que isso quer dizer? Tenho uma conta onde gerei 68 artigos. Como posso incluir nesse projeto?

--Ludovicapipa ^yes? 00:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Padronização dos nomes das bandeiras do brasil

Um bot trocou todas as bandeiras que você tinha padronizado (Flag of <Estado>.svg) para aquele antigo formato bagunçado. Sabe por que fizeram isso? — Guilherme ^(t/c) 00:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Não seria melhor simplesmente corrigir a licença? Acho que devia ter uma nomenclatura padrão para certos tipos de imagens. Do jeito atual está MUITO bagunçado. Creio que o que teria que fazer seria só mudar a licença daquelas que você enviou com o nome "Flag of <estado.svg". Teria como voltar atrás? — Guilherme ^(t/c) 02:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:New Seven Wonders

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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium.jpg

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Veja Commons:Category:Engenho de Dentro. Talvez não sejam tão lindas, mas são quatro fotos que substituem perfeitamente aquela. Dantadd 19:40, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Eu adoraria ajuda, mas tenho 3 mil imagens para transferir da pt.wiki para o Commons. Quer ajudar? hehehe. Dantadd 20:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 Pan American Games medal count

You have reverted me twice now without an edit summary, and have not responded to comments I've left on the talk page. I know you've been a big contributor to the page, but that does not give you sole rights to what does and doesn't go there. Could you please give me a good and compelling reason for keeping the non-medalists on the page, because otherwise, I will have to seek an alternate way to get my desired changes put onto the page, which I would certainly not like doing, as I am quite busy myself. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐  17:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I find important to show all information, without excluding nothing. Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 17:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

That's hardly an explanation. I guess I would be fine with including the no medal winning nations in the big table at top, but certainly not in the separated tables below. Don't you think that having everything more compact would look better?

And in response to your new comment about the template, I've fixed the problems it caused. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐  18:06, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Please keep in mind that editors are supposed to work off each other's edits. If you absolutely abhor my changes for a good reason, by all means change it to a way that might suit both of us, and others, too. I understand that even I may not like what I'm doing, but I recognize that there is a problem and I'm searching for a solution. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐  18:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

What featured lists are you referring to? _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐  18:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I have looked at the editing history of the above article, and the talkpage there and here and at User:Jared. I would make the following points; Wikipedia is a collabrative project, and anybody can edit. This means that no one person has the final say in how content should be presented, including the originator, and that consensus should be reached. By choosing to edit the English language version of Wikipedia means you have agreed to edit by the rules, policies and guidelines of the English language Wikipedia. A lack of communication skills in the endemic language does not allow you to disregard or not respond to the concerns of other editors, especially if you continue to edit in the manner which gave rise to the concerns.

Since there were initially two editors I would suggest that both you and User:Jared seek the opinion of a third party and attempt to form a consensus between the three of you. I note a third editor has now contributed to the article, so you might consider requesting their assistance. I shall copy this comment to the article talkpage, and I request that all parties endeavour to reach agreement there. LessHeard vanU 21:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your note at my talkpage. No need for apologies, all content to Wikipedia is gratefully received. If you and Jared work together, with any others, it will likely be a very good article very quickly. Happy editing. LessHeard vanU 21:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Please stop reverting my changes on this page. There has been consensus for the changes, and I even admitted that there was not consensus for others that I did not make. Also, please use edit summaries. If you still have problems with the layout of the page, I suggest you go to Wikipedia:Requests for comment and request that the page be reviewed. I thank you for accepting one of the changes, but would hope that you can consider using alternate means to get your point of view across because reverting people does not do that. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐  17:24, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] In the news

Hi! I added the 2007 Pan American games in the In the news template: check Wikipedia's main page. Regards, --Carioca 01:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pan 2007

"the celebration was the largest show in Brazil’s 500-year history"

Você não acha um pouco exagerada essa afirmação, no seu artigo sobre o Pan? Lenineleal 02:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Artigo de contagem de medalhas do Rio 2007

Eu sinceramente acho que a segunda opção que você me mostrou é a melhor. Mais simples e mais leve. Shiggy 03:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)