User talk:Jnothman/Mar-Jun 2006

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Contents 1 Yeshiva Centre media coverage 2 merge opinion 3 Jesus 4 Walther Rauff aka Walter Rauff 5 Birthright Israel 6 Birthright 7 Barnstar 8 Rina Messinger 9 Important AfD 10 template bibleverse 11 Bodypump - Bodybalance 12 You are wrong 13 User Talk:Jnothman 14 Walther Rauff 15 Zionist Youth Movement 16 AFD Helper script 17 Votes 18 European Union of Jewish Students 19 Re: Don't do the same as PZFUN... 20 PZFUN 21 User:Jnothman/afd helper/script.js 22 Jnothman FYI 23 Sydney Technical High School 24 Happy Birthday! 25 Happy Birthday 26 change to bibleverse 27 bibleverse template 27.1 Discussion on citing the bible 28 Cfd 29 ABS Stats

[edit] Yeshiva Centre media coverage

Greetings, just wondering if you might be able to help at Talk:Yeshiva Centre? ems 15:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge opinion

Hi, please add your opinion on merging with regard to these two articles:

Yad Sara | Bezalel Academy

Thanks --Shuki 21:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I love ozzies and the convenient time zone difference. --Shuki 16:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesus

A new editor is making rather bold claims about Judaism's view of Jesus, and also insisting he knows Jesus' Hebrew name. Could you possibly take a look at Talk:Jesus#Hebrew_name_of_Yehoshua_or_Yeshua and Talk:Judaism's view of Jesus? I'd appreciate it. Jayjg ^(talk) 17:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Walther Rauff aka Walter Rauff

There were many inaccurancies on the Walther Rauff entry which I have tried to correct. Poor Simon Wisenthal never got it 100% right. In the meantime, the CIA has released new documents concerning his case. As you know I met Rauff in 1979. He was definitely a full Colonel (SS-Standartenführer when he surrendered to the Americans in Italy). See http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2002/05/nara050802.html; --Bemister 13:41, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birthright Israel

Although Wikipedia claims to be a source of unbiased information, it is impossible for any of the entries on this site to be completely free of ideological underpinnings. That can certainly be said of your entry for Birthright Israel, and on your userpage you openly identify with Zionist ideology. In the past, I had updated the Birthright Israel entry to give a more accurate picture of the program; unfortunately, I don't have as much time as you do to keep it updated. These updates were differant from my more recent one, which was meant as satire and as such wasn't appropriate for this website.

By the way, I originally thought the person removing my updates were a paid employee/special software utilized by Birthright to maintain their image. That being said, perhaps you can acknowledge that some changes can be made to the entry, particularly expanding on the criticism section which doesn't get anywhere near the heart of the issue: why is it the birthright of ashkenazic Jews to immigrate to Israel, but Palestinian refugees who were violently displaced from their homes are not allowed? I'll admit that my viewpoints are ideological as much as yours are, and perhaps the roots of our beliefs may both lie in the Jewish tradition. My interpertation of Judaic morality, however, is opposed to the nationalism, ethnic supremacism, and the use of military violence that have become core tenets of Zionist practice.

I'm not going to waste my time updating this entry on my own since it's clear that you have enough time on your hands to keep taking changing it. However, in the spirit of the old Yiddush folk saying "Where there's two Jews, there's three opinions", perhaps you would be willing to make some concessions (unlike Israel at Camp David).

[edit] Birthright

Another thought: I just learned of a program called Birthright Unplugged, which allows non-Israeli Jews to visit Palestinian territories as well as giving Palestinians a chance to visit Israel. I will most likely be making an addition to the Birthright Israel entry to discuss this program.

[edit] Barnstar

[edit] Rina Messinger

שוב שלום, טעות בידכם, רינה מסינגר מעולם לא זכתה. השם הנכון הוא "רינה מור" וחבל שלא מתקנים. כהוכחה - [1]. לגבי התמונה של עברי לידר, חבל שמחקתם, לתמונה יש רישיון להעלות לכל הויקיפדיות. אתם מוזמנים להעתיק שוב מהעברית. Dalida 22:30, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Important AfD

• The article for the G10 Group of Prestigious Canadian Universities is up for Deletion, please go and support Education related articles in Canada. This is a very important group of schools, Canada's version of the Ivy League, and it needs your support! -- pm_shef 04:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] template bibleverse

There seems to be trouble with the book Isaiah with the template bibleverse. When clicked on the error message "This book (Isaiah) not in Mechon Mamre's collection." comes up. Any idea why? Jon513 06:53, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

It seems that someone (User:David.alex.lamb) made a template that does the same thing Template:Bibleref. I spoke to him about it and asked for his comments on Template talk:Bibleverse. I would appreciate your comments there as well.Jon513 21:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== TfD nomination of Template:Bibleref ==

Template:Bibleref has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Jon513 19:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bodypump - Bodybalance

Hi can I write up an academic entry on Bodypump and Bodybalance?

[edit] You are wrong

You don't know everything.

[edit] User Talk:Jnothman

Dear Joel:

Everytime I enter my name in a search engine, up pops your Usertalk correspondence. How long does this go on, and when do you delete resolved issues from your user talk, please?

Best wishes:--Bemister 13:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Walther Rauff

Dear Joel: Re Walther Rauff. I feel that Rauff could do with a more learned entry. I could contribute this after consulting the Bodelian Library, which is two minutes walk away, and the Institut für Zeitgeschichte in Munich. Shall I go ahead? --Bemister 13:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zionist Youth Movement

Hi, I've suggested ways of improving Zionist_youth_movement at the talk page. Since it's your baby, I thought you might have an opinion. Nomist 20:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFD Helper script

I'm wondering if there's any way you'd be able to quickly write up a modified version of this script for me so that:

• not only will it post my delete/keep/etc votes but also use voting symbols.

Example:

Support because blah.
Keep because blah.

Hope you know what I mean. Thanks if you can do this, please answer at my talk. — nathanrdotcom ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 04:09, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Found another voting symbol for you (don't know if you found this one on your own)

Merge

— nathanrdotcom ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 21:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't appear to be working and I've ran through all the troubleshooting. — nathanrdotcom ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 22:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

A few people have expressed a dislike for this system on the AfDs. I know I've gotten a message or two about it already. Is there any way we can disable these icons? Metros232 23:29, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I went in and set my own value to false for icons in my monobook, but is there any way we can make the default setting as false for them instead of true? Metros232 23:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I thought that would be the resolve in the end, but I thought more people would know about it and therefore be able to make an opinion if it were defaulting to true at first. Now default is false. jnothman ^talk 03:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. The concerns expressed were valid, I think: AfD is not a vote and it is the text of the argument which matters. Keep up the good work, though :-) Just zis Guy you know? 10:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Votes

I wonder if you'd consider not using symbols to label your comments on WP:AFD. It really isn't a vote, but your use of symbols might inadvertently emphasize the false impression that it is. --Tony Sidaway 23:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Good point. I thought I'd give it a trial- see what the reaction was. I assumed it would be that the default should be set off, which it now is. jnothman ^talk 03:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jnothman,

I am writing the article currently. Thank you for yoir reply back to the Bodypump issue.

[edit] European Union of Jewish Students

Hello Jnothman, I have noticed that you were quite active in articles related to Judaism including the article name in the title and this is why I am asking for some help. Somebody wants to erase European Union of Jewish Students. I would like you to give your opinion in the case Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European Union of Jewish Students. Thanks. Gadig 06:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

User:PZFUN has recently added an enormous amount of articles to AfD regarding Jewish scholars, organizations, and summer camps. I noticed you are a member of a WikiProject related to Judaism and would like to invite your opinion on these AfD's here. Thanks. Wes! • ^T_c 09:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I was very surprise late last night at the amount of Jewish-related articles in the AfD, and I looked for someone with more experience in the subject to put their 2-cents. Thanks again. Gadig 20:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Don't do the same as PZFUN...

Yeah I guess your right. I wouldn't normally do something like that but I am about to go to bed, and I didn't want to spend time forming a subjective opinion on all of the articles. I will go back and look at all of the articles when I wake up.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 13:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PZFUN

Joel, your input here would be appreciated. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:20, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Jnothman/afd helper/script.js

Could this script be expanded to cover other XfD's such as WP:TfD and WP:MfD? Or even other areas of the Wiki where we vote, such as WP:RfA? +Hexagon1 ^(t) 05:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jnothman FYI

Joel: If you look at http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/filmnetwork/U3608045?s_fromedit=1&s_typedarticle=edit you will see an updated article, which I am reluctant to use myself for Wikipedia, in case I break the rules concerning self authorship. I was recently informed by Fremantle Grundy's of the release of another title I had forgotten, and I was unaware of titles registered by the Australian National Film and Audio Archives, which did not exist in my (very happy) days in Sydney. If you feel it is appropriate, please feel free to do so yourself. I also noticed there is a new reference at http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/rauff.html I have decided to donate my 1979 still photograph to the Jewish Virtual Library so if you would like one for Wikipedia please let me know--Bemister 12:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sydney Technical High School

What do you reckon about this? [2] The same guy I showed you at the lab, but they're claiming other bits of notability now. Note that the Australian Science Olympiads are high school competitions with Australian scope, so it seems like this guy was really talented at high school - do you think that warrants inclusion? enochlau (talk) 14:16, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday!

Just a happy Birthday message to you, Jnothman/Mar-Jun 2006, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!!! Have a great day!

Thistheman 04:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, Jnothman/Mar-Jun 2006, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!!! Have a great day!

Steveo2 10:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Just a happy Birthday message to you, Jnothman/Mar-Jun 2006, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!!! Have a great day!

Many happy returns! Sergeant Snopake 11:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday

Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!!! Have a great day, Jnothman/Mar-Jun 2006!

Mr. Turcotte^talk 00:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi jnothman,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BodyPump

Someone created another entry for Bodypump.

I think it should be deleted.

[edit] change to bibleverse

Please see the discussion atTalk:Nazirite#bibleverse. User:SpaceFalcon2001 is replacing bibleverses with direct links to chabad.org. I do not favor either translation, but I would insist that it be within bibleverse. Having it as a direct link can cause great problems if the site would shut down or change its system. Can you please make it possible to link to chabad.org through bibleverse to avoid this controversy? Jon513 20:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Not worth it!

I wrote sonmething simular and it got deleted.

bye.

[edit] bibleverse template

Hi, I'm assuming that you are in charge of the website that the bibleverse template links to?

Would it be possible for you to add the New American Bible (NAB) and New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) to the list, as both of them are major versions of the bible.

The NAB can be found online at http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/ The NRSV can be found at http://bible.oremus.org (e.g. Matthew 1:1 (NRSV)) Clinkophonist 18:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

It seems that all of the machon mamre links are dead. I suspect that biblgateway has removed them as a source. Any ideas? Jon513 16:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for adding the NAB and NRSV; one thing though:

• You seem to have the oremus links backwards-
  • Instead of ....version=nrsv
  • Your linking thing produces of ....version=nsrvae
• And
  • instead of "New revised standard version" in the dropdown list
  • you have "New standard revised version"

The second isn't a big issue, but the first means that the links don't work. Clinkophonist 17:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion on citing the bible

Hi - thanks for your comments on Wikipedia:Citing sources/Bible, for the work you did on the PHP and the bibleverse template, and especially for your willingness to donate the work under the GPL. Just wanted to clarify that my concerns on the template were initiated by some replacements on pages I watch of internal links to articles about a chapter of the bible to external links. And at this point, I think the purpose of the discussion (or at least my purpose in starting the page) is not to get rid of {{bibleverse}} but to modify it so that it produces a result that better meets the NPOV needs of wikipedia (while favoring GFDL sources where possible).

I like your suggestions - though as a result of my review of stuff I am liking biblebrowser better, even with its cluttered design (for the non-initiate). There has been some concerns about how many hits adding link from wikipedia will add to the websites under discussion. Do you have any statistics on how many hits your redirect at *.edu.au is getting?

Finally - not knowing much about PHP or how it interacts with wikipedia. Is it possible to have something like the ISBN thing - where when you click on the link it takes to a page with links to different sources - similar to the combination proposal - and allow one to skip to a specific source based on a user setting in their .js or .css file. Someone suggested this - and it seems like a pretty good idea to me. Trödel 17:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thx - moved to talk page per your request - will respond later - sorry about that - wanted to make sure you got the message so that is why I put it here --Trödel 17:52, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cfd

Hi Jnothman, please see:

• Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 June 22#Category:Jewish day schools.

Many thanks, Nesher 22:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ABS Stats

Hi, it would be a great idea if you were to do this. The ABS' site is a mess and if would be nice if we could automatically dive in and extract the stats we want. If you're just talking about suburb statistics to start off with, I figure at the bare minimum you should retrieve the population, area, pop density, percentage of aboriginals/torres strait islanders and maybe the three most common nationalities/places of origin/whatever they call it. Perhaps average income as well. - ҉ Randwicked ҉ 09:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• B01 - Population, area, pop density. So is ATSI percentage.

All four.

• B03 - top (two?) age brackets

Probably just the under-15 and over-65 figures. Those are the ones I see in national statistics most often.

• B05 - is this where you wanted me to extract most common nationalities from? ancestry based on parent? I'm a little confused about how to understand these tables: just use the last column? When I calculate percentages, does it include "not stated"? Does "most common" mean top 5, or all those above a certain percentage?

This one has figures for both parents. That probably makes it too complicated for an infobox.

• B06 - or did you want me to extract nationalities from here?

I'd use this, just listing the top three or four nationalities by percentage (I don't know how hard that will be to calculate). Don't forget B08. The top three languages would be useful as well.

• B07 - or is this where I should take nationality from??
• B10 - get the top few religions- top by perccentage, or top 4? Count Christianity as one group or as individual sects, or both?

This might be getting too complex to include. But maybe Christianity with the three largest subsets, then the three next biggest faiths (including 'no religion').

• B18 - dwelling structure? percentage totals?
• B22 - unemployment rate
• B23 - non-school qualifications? percentages?
• B33 - median weekly household income? median weekly individual income? mean household size?

I wouldn't bother about the rest to start. I'm going to take this to the AWNB to get more opinions as well. - ҉ Randwicked ҉ 02:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)