User talk:Jnoonan
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[edit] Welcome!
Hello, Jnoonan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! VivioFateFan (Talk, Sandbox) 01:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Patrick Earl Hammie
Hi Jnoonan,
I was just doing a final check before heading off to bed when I noticed that you recreated the Patrick Earl Hammie article that I speedily deleted earlier as blatant spam. While I'm overjoyed to see such dedication so early on, I have to be honest with you and say that from what I've seen of the new article so far, it can still be deleted under the promotional criterion. Rather than delete it, though, I thought I'd come here and try to help you identify what needs to be improved.
If you haven't already, you should take a quick read through those links in the previous paragraph to get an idea of what editors and admins look for when tagging articles for speedy deletion. In the case of WP:CSD#G11, the spam/promotion criterion, the keyword is "exclusively promote some entity"--that is, pages which are less neutral and encyclopedic than they are...well, promotional. Since the specific definition of this admittedly vague term can vary from admin to admin, I maintain a page explaining the criteria I use when performing speedy deletions.
In this case, it is the language that most needs fixing; to put it bluntly, the article is written like a pamphlet at an art exhibit. Phrases like "...blend the figurative traditions of the Old Masters with an acute awareness of contemporary art practices" and "He uses the landscape of the body to visualize the effort to transcend typical masculine ideals, cultural perceptions, and reconcile inner duality." have no place in an encyclopedia written for a general audience. Rather, you should focus on first providing the basic information: who he is and why he is notable. While it's fine to discuss the artistic merits of his work in the proper context (and using neutral terms that foster understanding in a general audience), you need to make sure that these claims are backed up--otherwise, it's just original research or, in situations like this where notability is not established, an apparent attempt at promotion/obfuscation.
I'm sorry if this is not particularly clear, but it's a bit past my bedtime and I must be getting off. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I promise I'll do my best to answer them when I have a clear head. Good luck! --jonny-mt 16:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
